Democratic Debate

I missed it cause of work!

If anyone watched please give me feedback on how each candidate did and who won? (or tied)

Much appreciated! :D

It was a fairly civil debate. I think Obama took home with him the issue on the war. He kept reinforcing that it was more important to be right on Day 1 of voting, then being present... or something to that effect.

He basically alluded to the fact that Hilary voted to give GB authority to go to war, and Obama was opposed from the start.

They battled on health care.

Obama said it wasn't fair to mandate health care, but Hilary pointed out that he was mandating it for children, so what's the difference. Basically a lot of back and forth on some of the same issues.

I kind of was in a cough medicine induced coma during most of the debate, so if I didn't get it all... someone else please fill in.

I missed the debate but it probably went like this. I can provide free health care fo everyone. Well, I can provide free health care for everyone and also provide them with better high paying jobs. Well, I can provide health care for everyone, better paying jobs, and end poverty. Well, I can provide health care, good paying jobs, end poverty, and end our dependency on oil. The thing they leave out is how we will pay for this or how they will actually do any of these things. Oh, I forgot they will have the best economy the country has ever seen.

It was very boring and uninformative. Don't worry, you didn't miss a thing.

It was a fairly civil debate. I think Obama took home with him the issue on the war. He kept reinforcing that it was more important to be right on Day 1 of voting, then being present... or something to that effect.

He basically alluded to the fact that Hilary voted to give GB authority to go to war, and Obama was opposed from the start.

They battled on health care.

Obama said it wasn't fair to mandate health care, but Hilary pointed out that he was mandating it for children, so what's the difference. Basically a lot of back and forth on some of the same issues.

I kind of was in a cough medicine induced coma during most of the debate, so if I didn't get it all... someone else please fill in.

I like Obama much more than Hillary but his holier than thou routine about this war is tiresome. Nobody at the time was screaming too much about this and I would staunchly argue that being right on Day 1 is not what is important. It is being right NOW. Because NOW is the only thing that can be affected. Day 1 is gone and past. Get over it. Let's not focus on Day 1, let's focus on solutions to the problem.

And can anyone honestly say they think he wouldn't have voted for the war at the time? I have serious doubts about that. He seems like a team player and would have boarded that ship along with a lot of other Dems.

Did I miss something? Is Jason Alexander running for president?

I like Obama much more than Hillary but his holier than thou routine about this war is tiresome. Nobody at the time was screaming too much about this and I would staunchly argue that being right on Day 1 is not what is important. It is being right NOW. Because NOW is the only thing that can be affected. Day 1 is gone and past. Get over it. Let's not focus on Day 1, let's focus on solutions to the problem.

And can anyone honestly say they think he wouldn't have voted for the war at the time? I have serious doubts about that. He seems like a team player and would have boarded that ship along with a lot of other Dems.

Well 21 of 50 Dems in the Senate voted against the resolution authorizing the use of the military force. Moreover, Obama did make public statements denouncing the resolution. So, I think it's fair to say he would have voted with the other 21 Dems to reject the resolution. Moreover, I do think his vote is significant insofar as it demonstrates his past judgment, which itself is indicative of how he will act in the future.

For the record, I support the surge and oppose Obama's withdrawal plans. So, I'm not biased in favor of Obama when it comes to his views on Iraq.

it all seems like it boils down to weather or not you agree with the united states being in Iraq. both the Dem's will withdraw troops if elected. none of the republicans want this. i personally think its time to make Iraq accountable( there's that word again) for their own country, and bring our boys home

it all seems like it boils down to weather or not you agree with the united states being in Iraq. both the Dem's will withdraw troops if elected. none of the republicans want this. i personally think its time to make Iraq accountable( there's that word again) for their own country, and bring our boys home

I support the surge and our continued presence in Iraq. I oppose surrender, withdrawal, re-deployment or whatever you want to call it. However, I'm also an Obama supporter. Go figure.

As for "accountability," I think that's another way of saying "We'd like to abandon you now." I still have yet to figure out why so many people who want us to rush into places like Darfur and who wanted us to go to Rwanda are also saying we should get out of Iraq. We created a humanitarian mess in Iraq, we have the troops there, we made commitments to Iraqi allies, and it's in our national interest to see our commitments through. We didn't create a mess in Darfur, we don't have the troops there, the UN would oppose a UNILATERAL intervention there, we don't have any commitments to the Sudanese people in the Darfur region, and it's not in our national interests to be there. I can't perform the mental gymnastics that the anti-Iraq/pro-Darfur crowd goes through.

If Hillary or Obama win the general election, withdraw our troops from Iraq, and Iraq then descends into an even worse state, more damage will be done to the Democratic Party and our nation than I think most people realize. It took us 30 years to recover from Vietnam and it's legacy is "if you kick America in the teeth, they run away." Leaving Iraq would only feed the erroneous perception that this country and Democrats are weak at the knees.

i agree with most of what you say. but because George Bush rushed into Iraq without a clear plan, or vision, he took a bad situation and made it worse. there should be a non public time table for withdraw. this will make the Iraqi people understand that sometime in the near future, they will be governing their country. as long as the united states, and the other coalition members continue to stay, Iraq basically sits back and enjoys being baby sat. with the sad shape that our economy is in right now, im sure the money used to fund the war could easily be used elsewhere. i think where the republican machine miscalculated was they thought there could be stability in the middle east. not in our lifetime, maybe never