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Monkeydad 02-04-2008, 02:53 PM Did I see it right? It looked like to me that Belichick gave an official a little push out of the way when going out to meet Coughlin.
Wouldn't surprise me, seeing how he shoves reporters too.
WillH 02-04-2008, 03:24 PM To be clear, I don't condone or applaud what Belichick did. I don't think it should be too hard to stay on the field another few seconds and take defeat like a true professional.
All I'm saying is it's not like he didn't congratulate Coughlin at all and it just seems like this is how he's going to be and I just don't see him changing his ways. I don't know that he can be "forced" to do otherwise.
Yeah, he did nothing against any rules, so I am sure he wont catch any heat from the NFL, but it certainly was unsportsmanlike. For as much as this team loves to bitch about people hating on them, to do something so childish just goes to show why the catch so much flak. You would hope that as a dynasty that has won three super bowls they would have some class, and be able to take what they've been dishing out for so many years. It is a discredit to them, IMO. It may not be a serious lapse of judgment with serious consequences, but it was certainly childish. I have no anger or resentment towards him for it. In fact, it was utterly delightful to watch him stamp off the field grimacing. What a sore loser!!
TheBigD 02-04-2008, 03:32 PM A few years ago in a Week 17 matchup with playoff implications for the Vikes, Randy Moss walked off of the field when it appeared the Redskins had all but wrapped up the game. Moss caught hell for it in the press. On the game's biggest stage, Belichick walked off the field before the game was over. Why isn't Belichick getting roasted the same way Moss did? Granted, Belichick shook Coughlin's hand, but the game was not over.
Now, this "scandal" pales in comparison to Spygate and other incidents involving Belichick, but it's noteworthy. To the extent that people are scrutinizing Belichick's behavior, Belichick brought that on himself for developing a well-deserved reputation of being a classless jerk.
I know "class" and respect for the game means little to some, but it means quite a bit to people like myself who believe that football is more than a game of X and Os and numbers.
I am totally with you on this one Sheriff. NO-ONE and I mean no-one is above the game.
How is this not hurting the NFL's image is just beyond me. It is telling the millions of kids and young athletes that if you lose, the rules don't apply no more. This game is being broadcasted internationaly and the NFL should do something about BB acting infront of the whole world like the NFL is his little bitch. I am thinking a suspension of couple of games would be fit.
RobH4413 02-04-2008, 04:11 PM A few years ago in a Week 17 matchup with playoff implications for the Vikes, Randy Moss walked off of the field when it appeared the Redskins had all but wrapped up the game. Moss caught hell for it in the press. On the game's biggest stage, Belichick walked off the field before the game was over. Why isn't Belichick getting roasted the same way Moss did? Granted, Belichick shook Coughlin's hand, but the game was not over.
Now, this "scandal" pales in comparison to Spygate and other incidents involving Belichick, but it's noteworthy. To the extent that people are scrutinizing Belichick's behavior, Belichick brought that on himself for developing a well-deserved reputation of being a classless jerk.
I know "class" and respect for the game means little to some, but it means quite a bit to people like myself who believe that football is more than a game of X and Os and numbers.
To answer your question, I think it's probably because a coach walking off is completely different than a player. Pretty much I don't think these are parallel situations.
I'm not saying I didn't raise an eyebrow when he walked off the fields, but It wasn't the same kind of "whateva, I do what I want!", mentality. He shook hands, lost gracefully, and peaced out.
I'm not one to give BB the benefit of the doubt, because I legitimately don't like him, I just don't think this and the RM incident in D.C. is a good comparison.
JoeRedskin 02-04-2008, 04:13 PM To be clear, I don't condone or applaud what Belichick did. I don't think it should be too hard to stay on the field another few seconds and take defeat like a true professional.
All I'm saying is it's not like he didn't congratulate Coughlin at all and it just seems like this is how he's going to be and I just don't see him changing his ways. I don't know that he can be "forced" to do otherwise.
The problem is that Bellichick probably doesn't see anything wrong with it. He isn't going to do the little things that raise his stature to the level of class that a Joe Gibbs has ("Win with class guys").
As others have said, not caring what others think is one thing - being devoid of common courtesy and ignoring commonly accepted standards of sportsmansip is something else all together.
onlydarksets 02-04-2008, 04:20 PM Here's why it wasn't a big deal - the timekeeper messed up and ran the clock to zero. When Belicheat ran on the field, the game was, arguably, over as far as he knew (as in :00). He didn't just say "F- the last play, I'm going on the field".
Now, he obviously knew at some point that the refs had put the clock back to :01. The classy move would have been to LEAD your team back to the sideline and let the game end. However, we all know Belicheat isn't classy. So, while it's not surprising, it's really not a big deal.
Slingin Sammy 33 02-04-2008, 05:09 PM One second left or not, it's damn poor leadership to leave your team out there.....I don't care if it was a mere formality to end the game, no good leader walks off and leaves 11 of his defenders to finish it out.
A good leader is the first in and the last out, at least if he wants to maintain any sense of respect. If I were Belichick's players, I'd be royally pissed right now.
Agreed 100%. Piss-poor by BB IMO. Tom Coughlin didn't run to the Fox podium or off to do interviews, he went back to the sidelines with his team to run the last play. BB should face some sort of fine/suspension. Total disrespect & disregard for not only the Giants & the NFL , but most importantly his players.
wolfeskins 02-04-2008, 05:28 PM Here's why it wasn't a big deal - the timekeeper messed up and ran the clock to zero. When Belicheat ran on the field, the game was, arguably, over as far as he knew (as in :00). He didn't just say "F- the last play, I'm going on the field".
Now, he obviously knew at some point that the refs had put the clock back to :01. The classy move would have been to LEAD your team back to the sideline and let the game end. However, we all know Belicheat isn't classy. So, while it's not surprising, it's really not a big deal.
right on point. :goodjob:
ArtMonksHOFPlaque 02-04-2008, 05:36 PM I totally agree, the ref was right there plain as day saying there was time left on the clock.
Dirtbag59 02-04-2008, 05:40 PM If this was soccer then that one second woulnd't have mattered. Oh well goes to show you how rigourously timed football is. "NO THERES ONE SECOND LEFT ON THE CLOCK YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT OFFICAL OR ELSE THE NFL WILL FINE YOU!!!"
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