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skinsnut 02-08-2008, 01:04 AM ya know what....in the 70s when these guys got paid what we did (and got off season jobs) ...they played with their heart for the team.
Interesting that the touchdown dances, trouble with hookers in clubs, and various greed related activities weren't occuring then.
Who do you want your kids to look up to?
I still say ART MONK and Darrel Green....who were still "old school" in the 80s
Early money is corrupting many of our young athletes.
(Not to mention those smarmy agents)
SmootSmack 02-08-2008, 01:09 AM ya know what....in the 70s when these guys got paid what we did (and got off season jobs) ...they played with their heart for the team.
Interesting that the touchdown dances, trouble with hookers in clubs, and various greed related activities weren't occuring then.
Who do you want your kids to look up to?
I still say ART MONK and Darrel Green....who were still "old school" in the 80s
Early money is corrupting many of our young athletes.
(Not to mention those smarmy agents)
Drugs, hookers, illegal gambling was all around back in the 70s. What wasn't around were message boards, cell phone cameras, 24 hour news channels
Daseal 02-08-2008, 01:14 AM Exactly, NFL radio old players talk about the crazy shit they used to do when they were rookies. They said they did it and no one cared that much. Hell, you think LT would be able to carry on a coke habit like he did back then today? Hell no!
Bottom line is these players sacrifice their bodies and potentially years off their life. I bet if you were in a job with these types of hours and conditions you would be wanting to be compensating handsomely. Also, these are RARE human beings. Few people posses the gifted natural size and athleticism NFL players posses. Not to mention, every week during the season they go out and entertain how many millions of Americans? If the athletes were getting paid too much, the NFL would be out of business, but business is thriving.
The only place I split off of this argument, is teams have to pay FAR too much money to high draft picks. It's ridiculous to give that amount of money to a completely unproven commodity. The first pick in the draft seems to be more of a curse than a blessing.
hooskins 02-08-2008, 01:17 AM Exactly, NFL radio old players talk about the crazy shit they used to do when they were rookies. They said they did it and no one cared that much. Hell, you think LT would be able to carry on a coke habit like he did back then today? Hell no!
Bottom line is these players sacrifice their bodies and potentially years off their life. I bet if you were in a job with these types of hours and conditions you would be wanting to be compensating handsomely. Also, these are RARE human beings. Few people posses the gifted natural size and athleticism NFL players posses. Not to mention, every week during the season they go out and entertain how many millions of Americans? If the athletes were getting paid too much, the NFL would be out of business, but business is thriving.
The only place I split off of this argument, is teams have to pay FAR too much money to high draft picks. It's ridiculous to give that amount of money to a completely unproven commodity. The first pick in the draft seems to be more of a curse than a blessing.
I agree here with this. Although it seems quite a bit, they get what they deserve because they do entertain tons of people.
On a side note, their payrolls aren't helping the documented growing inequality in this nation. A rising tide lifts all boats, but not equally.
skinsnut 02-08-2008, 01:34 AM Bottom line is these players sacrifice their bodies and potentially years off their life. I bet if you were in a job with these types of hours and conditions you would be wanting to be compensating handsomely.
Funny,
Are you talking about our armed forces or sports entertainers?
You have got to be kidding me.
Please compare the 2 and tell me why sports athletes should be paid a single cent more that those that sacrifice their lives for us.
Someone mentioned teacher too...
C'mon man....you truly think Sports athletes are not GROSSLY overpaid?
Daseal 02-08-2008, 02:05 AM Please compare the 2 and tell me why sports athletes should be paid a single cent more that those that sacrifice their lives for us.
Guess what nearly all these professions you're listing have in common -- they're paid by the state. People already complain enough about taxes. And guess what, the best of the best in the armed services DO get rewarded very well financially. Along with teachers, everyone at the NFL level is the best of the best.
But just like everything else, the best money is in the private sector.
Even if you want to get into sports contracts, look at baseball and basketball before football.
djnemo65 02-08-2008, 03:05 AM Want players to make less? Stop supporting the NFL. Otherwise they are going to get a share of the profits commensurate with what their respective unions can negotiate.
I think some of you need to go back to Russia:)
hagams 02-08-2008, 06:26 AM Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I know I couldn't go out there for 3 years and protect a QB, catch a bunch of deep balls, work my butt of 365 days for 16 weeks of gain. These guys do a lot in the offseason also. Also, take a look at the risks of physical harm.
On the flip side, most of them have college degree's that could earn them so good money, but not what thier making now.
Sure they get paid a ton but they also put a lot at risk. I'm not sure of the exact numbers but the overall life expectancy of a NFL player is much shorter than your average person. They are also more prone to suicide, divorce, obesity, heart problems, depression, etc. Something about crashing into other people at full speed over an extended period of time doesn't do the body good. Go figure.
SouperMeister 02-08-2008, 09:46 AM For years, owners abused players rights before the advent of free agency. With the NFL being the gold standard, franchises are hugely successful businesses today, and the players bring the compelling entertainment value. I have no problem with any man making what the open market will bear.
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