Beemnseven
02-19-2008, 10:12 PM
What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall?
If that was all there was to him, he'd have gone the way of Darnerian McCants.
If that was all there was to him, he'd have gone the way of Darnerian McCants.
Dream (but Realistic) OffseasonBeemnseven 02-19-2008, 10:12 PM What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall? If that was all there was to him, he'd have gone the way of Darnerian McCants. SmootSmack 02-19-2008, 10:20 PM If that was all there was to him, he'd have gone the way of Darnerian McCants. So what's great about him then? Beemnseven 02-19-2008, 10:38 PM Well, I never said he was a "great" wide receiver. I'd welcome the addition of him to our roster. Though I've dismissed the importance of tall wide receivers in the past, I can see how it might give us an advantage we haven't had at the position in some time. Above all else, the evidence points to an underperforming wideout corps in Washington for the past few years. If for no other reason that our receivers could use a shakeup, Wilford would also give Jason Campbell a target that provides great contrast to the 5-11 and under WRs he's been relegated to. Maybe Jason needs a different type of receiver to reach another level of success? GTripp0012 02-19-2008, 10:54 PM I think training camp is very optimistic for Rocky considering the injury he had. If you offer him the right price Briggs would come he for a year but it would be a ton of $$$.Uh...salary cap? SmootSmack 02-19-2008, 10:58 PM Well, I never said he was a "great" wide receiver. I'd welcome the addition of him to our roster. Though I've dismissed the importance of tall wide receivers in the past, I can see how it might give us an advantage we haven't had at the position in some time. Above all else, the evidence points to an underperforming wideout corps in Washington for the past few years. If for no other reason that our receivers could use a shakeup, Wilford would also give Jason Campbell a target that provides great contrast to the 5-11 and under WRs he's been relegated to. Maybe Jason needs a different type of receiver to reach another level of success? Ok, I guess I was (still am) a bit unclear on what made Wilford so special that it warranted moving El down to 4th/5th on the depth chart or even off the team. What has he done in his career that Randle El hasn't? Speaking of tall receivers, you think Billy McMullen will do anything? He's been kind of a bust so far in his career but he does have WCO experience. Personally, I'm not holding out high hopes for him. I'm on the Burl Toler bandwagon :) or maybe the Maurice Mann bandwagon :) Seriously though, I still like Reche (though not as a #1) Beemnseven 02-19-2008, 11:16 PM Ok, I guess I was (still am) a bit unclear on what made Wilford so special that it warranted moving El down to 4th/5th on the depth chart or even off the team. What has he done in his career that Randle El hasn't? Speaking of tall receivers, you think Billy McMullen will do anything? He's been kind of a bust so far in his career but he does have WCO experience. Personally, I'm not holding out high hopes for him. I'm on the Burl Toler bandwagon :) or maybe the Maurice Mann bandwagon :) Seriously though, I still like Reche (though not as a #1) I'll have to check out Toler and Mann (I've got lots of work to do familiarizing myself with all these new prospects). I guess I've lost patience with Randle El. When we signed him up in '06, I always referred to him as the Lexus when a Camry would have done just fine. We had decent special teams last year, and he never did find the endzone or provide any sort of spark on returns. I can't tell you how many times during the past season I found myself saying, "boy, we could sure use a big return from Randle El here" -- but it never materialized. And yes, I understand the cap hit we would take if he were released, so that's not going to happen. I just don't think there would be that big of a difference in actual on-field production if he were somehow no longer on the roster. McMullen is a Virginia boy, so he's OK in my book. I like Reche too. He came up for us big in some spots last year. sandtrapjack 02-19-2008, 11:24 PM Well, he's producing at about the rate of a "depth" guy. 51 receptions for 728 yards and 1 touchdown? Honestly, the Redskins could cut him and there wouldn't be that much of a difference on the field. He may be producing like a depth guy, but he is being paid like a #2 WR. Most #2's in the league don't make as much as Randle El. And if you cut him, all you do is add to the dead money that is a majority of the salary cap overage. Kinda of like a divorce. You want it, you need it, but can't afford it. "It's cheaper to keep'er" That Guy 02-20-2008, 01:24 AM Briggs arrival wouldn't mean Rocky's being benched. McIntosh at best would be back to play a few games next year. Let him work his way back up and sign Briggs to a one year deal so he will be leaving at the time Rocky's ready to come back at full starting strength. Wilford and Johnson wouldn't be a waste. Their size and soft hands could be very useful in the redzones or when we need a clutch catch. I'm not say Moss and Randle El are better or worse but I do remember their size being an issue at one time and they each dropped some catchable balls when we really needed a big play this past season. A little depth and more options never hurt a WR corp. are you kidding? sign briggs to a one year deal? that's about 180 degrees away from what he's looking for and he'd NEVER accept that. why do you think he's making such a huge deal about not wanting to be franchised? wilford hasn't proven he's any better than what we have. and yes, depth at that price (4 WRs averaging 6mill a year, another making at least 3mill) would kill our ability to do much else with the roster. That Guy 02-20-2008, 01:27 AM I'll have to check out Toler and Mann (I've got lots of work to do familiarizing myself with all these new prospects). I guess I've lost patience with Randle El. When we signed him up in '06, I always referred to him as the Lexus when a Camry would have done just fine. We had decent special teams last year, and he never did find the endzone or provide any sort of spark on returns. I can't tell you how many times during the past season I found myself saying, "boy, we could sure use a big return from Randle El here" -- but it never materialized. And yes, I understand the cap hit we would take if he were released, so that's not going to happen. I just don't think there would be that big of a difference in actual on-field production if he were somehow no longer on the roster. McMullen is a Virginia boy, so he's OK in my book. I like Reche too. He came up for us big in some spots last year. you realize we bid against ourselves on el, and gave him a 6 year 31mill deal when chicago only offered him a 3 year 8mill deal right? he's probably the best #3 WR in the league, but he's a lower end #2. it's not his fault he got overpaid though. SmootSmack 02-20-2008, 02:11 AM Well, this is probably more dream than realistic but... I'd like to see how much Jake Scott (Colts) would set us back and of course... I wouldn't be me if I didn't say let's go after Justin Smith! He's not the greatest pass rusher (though he's underrated in that regard) but he is (in my opinion) one of the most versatile every down defensive linemen in the league. He can play the run and the pass effectively well. You could even slide him into a DT role on some plays. Someone like Smith can really free things up for the defense to make plays. Lance Briggs is a tempting option but I think maybe we should take a look at Calvin Pace. The big question marks with him of course are what exactly is he (DE or LB?) and were his 2007 numbers because it was a contract year? Draftwise, I'm pretty torn. My general beliefs are pretty consistent (focus on getting a DB and line depth) but the players tend to vary. Today, I'll say 1st round-DB Antoine Cason, 2nd round-OT Mike McGlynn, 3rd round-WR Earl Bennett, 5th round-DT Marcus Harrison, 6th round-Another Guard, 7th round-Some QB (Erik Ainge? first name that came to mind) |
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