freddyg12
02-28-2008, 11:03 AM
IMO, Seller's weakness has been pass blocking, which doesn't make him a good TE. He had some good games pass blocking at the end of the season, but it's not what he does best.
In the WCO how much do FBs need to pass block? seems not too much as the dropbacks are shorter. He can catch, run & run block. Just because you run a 'spread offense' doesn't mean the FB isn't asked to lead block. What did Mack Strong do all of those years in Seattle.
While I don't see Sellers losing his starting FB job, I think it's possible that his playing time will diminish some as they use more 3-4 reciever sets & only 1 back.
J. Spanky
02-28-2008, 11:03 AM
apparently zorn would like to bring in another fullback. and weaver seems to be a logical and viable choice.
but mike sellers is the MAN! we need to be using him more, not less. excellent blocker. underused ball carrier. underused receiver.
i remember early this season, against the lions, when he caught like a 30 yard pass and then bowled over kenoy kennedy. i don't recall seeing anything more than a 5 yarder sent his way the rest of the season. and that is a crime!
SBXVII
02-28-2008, 11:08 AM
I don't think he said anything about Sellers not being a core guy. He never mentioned gettng rid of Sellers, he simply was implying that Sellers may be small for the position and not able to make the holes a true FB would make. I'm guessing this is what was meant. I love Sellers...especially when he bowls people over but blocking a 300 pound man away from a hole and running over a 180-200 pound man are two different stories.
I don't mind him being a FB or a TE but last yr I wondered why sometimes he was used a FB especially on the goal line when we went nowhere. Why could we not make the hole or a bigger person to generate the hole? I'm sure Zorn will figure out how best to use him.
I don't think he said anything about Sellers not being a core guy. He never mentioned gettng rid of Sellers, he simply was implying that Sellers may be small for the position and not able to make the holes a true FB would make. I'm guessing this is what was meant. I love Sellers...especially when he bowls people over but blocking a 300 pound man away from a hole and running over a 180-200 pound man are two different stories.
I don't mind him being a FB or a TE but last yr I wondered why sometimes he was used a FB especially on the goal line when we went nowhere. Why could we not make the hole or a bigger person to generate the hole? I'm sure Zorn will figure out how best to use him.
Now I'm really confused.
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor
02-28-2008, 11:19 AM
I don't know about Sellers being too small for the position, I was just saying that he may not be as fast nor is his hands a good fit the position. Just watch some Weaver highlights at seahawks.com and I'm telling you he makes that offense run smooth just as Morris does at rb.
SC Skins Fan
02-28-2008, 11:20 AM
I don't think he said anything about Sellers not being a core guy. He never mentioned gettng rid of Sellers, he simply was implying that Sellers may be small for the position and not able to make the holes a true FB would make. I'm guessing this is what was meant. I love Sellers...especially when he bowls people over but blocking a 300 pound man away from a hole and running over a 180-200 pound man are two different stories.
I don't mind him being a FB or a TE but last yr I wondered why sometimes he was used a FB especially on the goal line when we went nowhere. Why could we not make the hole or a bigger person to generate the hole? I'm sure Zorn will figure out how best to use him.
Huh? Mike Sellers is 6-3 284 lbs. You can certainly critique some parts of his game, but you might be the first person to ever refer to him as a "small" guy.
In the classic WCO (Bill Walsh) the fullback was key as a receiver and used to maximize the number of eligible receivers. Tom Rathman was the prototype (probably someone else in his days with the Bengals pre-dated Rathman, but my memory does not extend that far). He always caught 30-50 balls and in 1989 had 73 receptions.
As with most things, though, there are exceptions and variations on the WCO. For instance, in the run heavy WCO Seattle team that went to the SB a few years ago, Mack Strong was a battering ram for Shaun Alexander. I don't think Mike Sellers is going anywhere any time soon.
SBXVII
02-28-2008, 11:22 AM
I said I may be assuming that, thats what he meant. Not sure. Why else would one want to replace Sellers from a FB position? cause he is not blocking well or running the ball well. I think we all know he runs the ball well and does a good job catching so I was guessing as to what he might have meant. I do recall times where Sellers did not make the hole for the running back. Usually Portis. and usually at the goal line.
Longtimefan
02-28-2008, 11:23 AM
Sellers is undoubtably the man for now, but I expect the team will be looking for depth at the position in the upcoming draft.
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor
02-28-2008, 11:25 AM
Mack Strong was also a bigger threat catching balls out of the backfield ala Weaver. Sellers can catch but he can not take a flat and turn up field for a 20 yard gain. Sellers is just too slow.
SBXVII
02-28-2008, 11:27 AM
In regards to him being small I revert back to my arguement that he was not making the holes on 3rd and 1. or 4th and 1. I do believe we were one of the best on 3rd downs but I do believe there were plenty of times where holes were not made.
I didn't study the game films so maybe someone else broke down on those plays but I simply meant was maybe some one with a little more weight should be in the JUMBO package.