SmootSmack
03-06-2008, 12:19 AM
Favre deffinately but Sapp... Im back and forth on him. He was a part of a really nasty Bucs deffense that was almost unstoppable but that whole team was good. He kinda disapeared in Oakland. He did have a long career so maybe he was just old, but I have a hard time believing he gets in on first ballot based on how he finished his career. Favre ended in the NFC championship.... Sapp with a horrible team three years in a row. (which I am in no way blaming him solely for)
Well, he did have 10.5 sacks as a DT in 2006. But it's not his fault really that Oakland was so awful the past few years.
Stuck in TX
03-06-2008, 12:21 AM
Well, he did have 10.5 sacks as a DT in 2006. But it's not his fault really that Oakland was so awful the past few years.
Favre deffinately but Sapp... Im back and forth on him. He was a part of a really nasty Bucs deffense that was almost unstoppable but that whole team was good. He kinda disapeared in Oakland. He did have a long career so maybe he was just old, but I have a hard time believing he gets in on first ballot based on how he finished his career. Favre ended in the NFC championship.... Sapp with a horrible team three years in a row. (which I am in no way blaming him solely for)
oh yeah i agree. I'm just saying how it will look to the people voting. I know some people who thought Sapp already retired... Idiots, but people nonetheless.
SmootSmack
03-06-2008, 12:26 AM
oh yeah i agree. I'm just saying how it will look to the people voting. I know some people who thought Sapp already retired... Idiots, but people nonetheless.
Hopefully people will realize that it's rare to retire on top. But I hear ya.
Dirtbag59
03-06-2008, 01:23 AM
Hopefully people will realize that it's rare to retire on top. But I hear ya.
John Elway.............Um..............Micheal Strahan (possibly).......I got nothing
SmootSmack
03-06-2008, 09:17 AM
John Elway.............Um..............Micheal Strahan (possibly).......I got nothing
Elway, Bettis, and Bill Walsh is all I could think of
onlydarksets
03-06-2008, 09:23 AM
Barry Sanders, Jim Brown.
onlydarksets
03-06-2008, 09:24 AM
Oh - by "on top" you mean after a SB championship?
freddyg12
03-06-2008, 12:27 PM
Favre deffinately but Sapp... Im back and forth on him. He was a part of a really nasty Bucs deffense that was almost unstoppable but that whole team was good. He kinda disapeared in Oakland. He did have a long career so maybe he was just old, but I have a hard time believing he gets in on first ballot based on how he finished his career. Favre ended in the NFC championship.... Sapp with a horrible team three years in a row. (which I am in no way blaming him solely for)
He had a great 06 in Oakland, but he wasn't doing any interviews. Defensive Players like Sapp sometimes suffer by comparison from their early success, just like Deion did here. Because you don't hear about them, doesn't mean they're not doing well.
I would argue that Sapp could still play DT better than 50-60% of the nfl today.