Dirtbag59
06-15-2008, 01:55 AM
i don't know how anyone could says he's the best with gates, winslow, and gonzo around.
hell, in the nfc east, i'd taken cooley or witten over him any day. his attitude is part of his game, and it doesn't make him a better player.
I think if you're going to argue that Shockey is the best Tight End is the league your best chance of winning is arguing that when healthy Shockey is the most athletically gifted Tight End in the league, the Giants just don't use him properly but yeah, call me a Larry Michael I mean homer, but I'd take Cooley over Shockey any day.
Giantone
06-15-2008, 09:16 AM
If you read what I said ,I said "Over All",the others are good at one thing or the other.Right now I too would take Cooley...Shockey is a head case.
Miller101
06-16-2008, 08:27 AM
It would be great if they let him go! At the very least it would be great if he holds out of training camp for a little bit and the Giants bench him for week 1! This guy is a real good tight end...........With him out of the game all you have to do is double up Plax, stack the box and see if Eli can beat you! We all know he can't!
It would be great if they let him go! At the very least it would be great if he holds out of training camp for a little bit and the Giants bench him for week 1! This guy is a real good tight end...........With him out of the game all you have to do is double up Plax, stack the box and see if Eli can beat you! We all know he can't!
I'm not sure how well that take holds up anymore considering he won a Super Bowl.
dmek25
06-16-2008, 08:55 AM
4 full pages, and no one wants him here? ( at vet minimum, of course)
Miller101
06-16-2008, 10:35 AM
I'm not sure how well that take holds up anymore considering he won a Super Bowl.
It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck. :)
gibbsisgod
06-16-2008, 10:40 AM
It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck. :)
The two second half drives against us in week 3 that led to TDs weren't luck. All thos eroad wins last season weren't luck. Don't let your hate for the Giants cloud your judgement. Eli is a very good QB. I admit I was totally wrong about him. He has all the tools to be a HOFer.
It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck. :)
Not really.
Consider how well he played throughout the playoffs and don't boil things down to one play. Even then I wouldn't call it luck, he did a great job at escaping the rush and keeping the play alive to just get the throw off.
Monkeydad
06-16-2008, 11:10 AM
Shockey for Chad Johnson trade? :D
Monkeydad
06-16-2008, 11:11 AM
^It would solve problems for both teams (and create new ones). :)