Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-16-2008, 10:52 AM
I agree with this. Where did you hear about these negotiations?
I first heard about the talks several months ago on one of those Sunday morning news shows. Since then, I've read about it numerous times. Sorry I didn't post a link.
saden1
04-16-2008, 12:18 PM
I first heard about the talks several months ago on one of those Sunday morning news shows. Since then, I've read about it numerous times. Sorry I didn't post a link.
Didn't El President say in his recent speech that the greatest threat America faces is Al-Qaeda and Iran? I guess he still wants to pound sand.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-16-2008, 01:53 PM
Didn't El President say in his recent speech that the greatest threat America faces is Al-Qaeda and Iran? I guess he still wants to pound sand.
I wouldn't be surprised if he did so and I don't see the point in making those kinds of statements. Then again, Iran is not sitting quietly singing America's praises.
firstdown
04-16-2008, 04:43 PM
If the president did not realize that Iran is a threat to this country then we have a problem. I think its the Dem's that keep jumping on this band wagon that everytime Iran is mentioned they make it seem that Bush is going to start bombing any minute. Maybe we could go back to the 90's and do nothing when people attack the world trade center our ships, embassies (spelling) etc...
dmek25
04-16-2008, 04:54 PM
you add up all those bombings, and you still don't have the death toll that we have in Iraq. sometimes its better to sacrifice a couple of hundred American heroes, so millions more can be safe. and no, im not saying its OK to lose any Americans. but the numbers WERE in our favor. and what about North Korea? to me, they are probably the biggest threat. with a nut as a ruler. what about communistic China? billions of soldiers, armed with all the latest technology. all kinds of human rights infringements, and killings going on. is that OK? why was it strictly Iraq? any guesses?
saden1
04-16-2008, 04:57 PM
If the president did not realize that Iran is a threat to this country then we have a problem. I think its the Dem's that keep jumping on this band wagon that everytime Iran is mentioned they make it seem that Bush is going to start bombing any minute. Maybe we could go back to the 90's and do nothing when people attack the world trade center our ships, embassies (spelling) etc...
He is using the same lingo he used before we invaded Iraq and I have no faith to believe he is not going to open another war front. As for the 90's, terrible times they were, because of the 90's we are where we are today. Do I have it right?
firstdown
04-16-2008, 05:23 PM
dmek25 please explain this statement of yours.
you add up all those bombings, and you still don't have the death toll that we have in Iraq. sometimes its better to sacrifice a couple of hundred American heroes, so millions more can be safe. and no, im not saying its OK to lose any Americans. but the numbers WERE in our favor.
12thMan
04-16-2008, 05:49 PM
It so funny how, no matter the subject matter of any political thread, it always comes full circle to Iraq and Bush. Just an observation.
firstdown
04-16-2008, 06:01 PM
is this a case of someone like Fox making a issue where there really isn't? i still see this as a non issue. and it is really funny to hear someone like a 72 year old John McCain saying someone else is out of touch. that man hasn't a clue on every day problems us real Americans face. now, show him a war, or conflict, and that's right up his alley
I like how you have to point out his age to say he is out of touch. Hmmm
70Chip
04-18-2008, 02:05 AM
I first heard about the talks several months ago on one of those Sunday morning news shows. Since then, I've read about it numerous times. Sorry I didn't post a link.
I think the Iranians can be dealt with but it requires diplomacy of the highest order. I wouldn't trust the State Depatment with it. They would have to believe that the person they are dealing with represents the highest authority. If they suspect for one second that they are dealing with a State Department so and so, then it's a waste of time. They want to be respected. They are not Arab and they have shown an affinity fo reason in the past. The real problem is their out and out hostility towards Jews. No diplomatic advances will be possible until they climb down from the idea that they can attain a Jew-free Palestine. Arabs have shown no willingness to do so, but I think Persians could be persuaded under the right circumstances.
This was the great failure of the neo-cons. The failure to seize the opportunity to drive a wedge between the Arabs and the Iranians. Nixon would have seen it immediately. He would have had a love fest (albeit extremely awkward) with Khameni. Unfortunately, there are no mulligans in foreign relations and Nixon is dead.
Fictional Nixon and Helms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx0t-pLLD2k)