The official 2008 draft discussion thread

if we have to move some picks to move up here in the third and nab a decent OL or CB prospect...I will not mind, anyone else?

Yeah same here but I would rather get a DE, CB, and O-line in that order.

Yeah same here but I would rather get a DE, CB, and O-line in that order.

yeah, but its my understanding that there aren't any quality DE prospects left...anyone you can name?

Back off my man Thrash. He provides a solid, hard working aditude and is one of the best Special Teamers in the league. El can not perform when the true slot receiver is stuck on the other end of a 5'10 receiver. Mix has yet to be proven but it is wrong to just throw him out the door. And Moss is a burner who, when complemented with another larger reciever who can take some pressure off him, will be a major weapon for us. There is much more to football than going long and recieving. There is fundementals of Football, hard work ethics, and talent. All of which I feel all of our receivers (well not Mix, yet... but there is a reason he has not been cut) exhibit every day be it offseason or Sunday.

No, by 'trash' I mean he's probably gone. Thrash has contributed nicely over the years, but at some point he's going to have to make way for guys who can make big plays. I just think his time here is done.

With Mix, I'm only saying that he's got some serious competition now, so he'd better be up to the task. Otherwise there just won't be any room for him. Unless they totally bomb and suck out loud, I'd say Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly already have the edge on him.

As for Moss, yes, I know he's not going anywhere due to cap constraints. Perhaps the additions of other wideouts who can draw more attention from the DBs will take some heat off of him. I just think too many people are still living in 2005 when Moss was fantastic. They just can't seem to come to grips with the fact that he hasn't been anywhere near that level of productivity since.

2 wide receivers and a tight end on the first day with an aged Offensive line and no pass rush was a bad draft. The shuffling that went on with the offensive line last year should not be forgotten and should have been addressed earlier. I have always hated teams that use the Cerrato philosophy of 'best available'.

I run a part time DJ biz and if I need a new amplifier and walk into the DJ store and buy a new mixer because it's on sale and a 'good value' what the heck good is it. I still need a new amp.

I'd have loved the Kelly and Thomas picks if we had gotten some help on the D to go along with it. I have no problem not taking OL help yet. The talent is just as strong in the later rounds there. But not at DE. What do we do now?

As far as improving our WRs Kelly and Thomas is great, but does it make our team better?

It doesn't make us better cause one guy isn't going to play unless we're going to be running a lot of 4 wr sets.

We don't really know if Thomas drops passes. We don't know if he runs good routes. We don't know if he's an NFL talent. Nothing he did in college suggests that he's good at anything football.

He's fast and strong. That much we know about him. He can jump, and move laterally very fast.

Sold? I'm not.

I'm not sold either. Too much of a risk IMO.

I'm totally baffled by this post. I think you spend too much time with your metrics and DVOAs and your DPARs that you overanalyze way too often and then you find yourself trying to convince us that we're better off with Tim Rattay, yet Devin Thomas has only shown the ability to run and jump

Smoot....I really really like Thomas but with your first pick you need to go with more of a sure thing. Don't you think?

Thomas was rated as first round talent and was projected to possibly go as high as #11 to Buffalo. I don't think he would have been a reach even at #21, to get him where we did was fantastic.

Are you serious? You don't disagree that Moss is at best an average wide receiver? Did you watch any games last year after he got back to being healthy? Bears, Giants, Vikings, Cowboys? I'm glad fans don't evaluate talent for this team at any level other than internet posts.

My how times have changed around here. I remember not too long ago there was a thread about how Randy Moss was done and Santana was better.

Thomas was rated as first round talent and was projected to possibly go as high as #11 to Buffalo. I don't think he would have been a reach even at #21, to get him where we did was fantastic.

I guess so. I just understand the overkill at wr.