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Dirtbag59 05-08-2008, 10:47 AM My only thing with Moss is this. He himself said he "Quit" in the Green Bay game. What kind of message does this send to the team and to the Rookies. That it's ok to quit, because the game isn't going your way. Overall he is a great WR when healthy, and with him, ARE, Cooley, and anyone of the Rooks out there, I see his numbers (YAC, and TD's) increasing, b/c its his style of game. Let him catch, and run. But I lost lots of respect for him in the Green Bay game. I mean seriously even TO doesn't quit on games, he just sucks but thats a different story.
I just hope that he will be able to bounce back, and with less pressure from opposing defenses on him this year I believe that we will see a good WR in him again.
I actually admired him for that. It takes a lot of guts to say I'm hurting the team, put in someone else, especially for a star player like Santana. From what I've seen Moss always plays hard, even during the Green Bay game, so it's not like he's a quitter and on top of that I bet no one felt worse after that game then Moss himself. Plus the coaching staff should have taken Moss out to begin with.
freddyg12 05-08-2008, 12:49 PM He had some bad games early in the year, w/the GB game being probably the worst of his career. While he may have lost that one, he's also single-handedly won or turned games around, which we saw a lot of in 05 & we saw late last year. At the end of last year I don't think there was any more dangerous reciever in the league. He was healthy & confident & Collins was confident in him. He might not've racked up major stats, but he made big plays in big games, e.g. NYG, Minn. & Dallas.
He's still a home run hitter & brings that threat to the offense, plus he's pretty good on the short stuff if he's hit in stride & able to make some moves after the catch. Let's face it, there are only a few recievers in the league that produce major #s & are good team players & don't gripe when they don't get the ball. M. Harrison, Holt, Fitzgerald, Marshall & H. Ward come to mind. It's a position known as much for media highlights as game highlights.
For that reason, I'm glad we traded for Moss, he's been a good player & team leader, always seems to carry himself well on & off the field and has said he likes being a Redskins, unlike the dude we traded for him. He's still our go to guy on the outside & I hope he puts up some big #s again.
redsk1 05-08-2008, 02:36 PM The thing that I noticed about Moss is that he goes down to easily after the first hit. That is probably due to the fact that he is a bit small.
In 2005 he was hot and a kind of an unknown in our conference, and that is why he had the good success that he enjoyed. Now, teams have done their homework on him, and have him scouted-out pretty good. He was also doubled-up alot, because we really didn't have another receiver that had playmaking potential. Hopefully that has changed now with our two draft picks.
Also, because of his lack of size, he was not a threat in the redzone, and that hurt us far too many times. We need ball hungry playmakers who have crazy heart when they are out on the field. And we need people who can be counted on to extend drives when we need it. I think Moss is a great number 2 or 3 wideout, but not a number 1 or your prototypical possesion type receiver. If he continues to have injury issues and games where he does not give it his all, then he needs to go. I hope that he can still contribute for us.
Don't really agree that the conference has scouted him therefore they've figured him out.
I do think the lack of any other threat besides Cooley has left him doubled a majority of the time. I do believe he can be a legit red zone threat w/ some more weapons at WR. That's why if the Rooks...Thomas, Kelly, Davis can prove worthy it'll open some things up for everyone else.
Stuck in TX 05-08-2008, 05:20 PM Don't really agree that the conference has scouted him therefore they've figured him out.
I do think the lack of any other threat besides Cooley has left him doubled a majority of the time. I do believe he can be a legit red zone threat w/ some more weapons at WR. That's why if the Rooks...Thomas, Kelly, Davis can prove worthy it'll open some things up for everyone else.
or he can help in the redzone and draw attention to himself while its dumped off the Kelly, Davis, Sellers, or Thomas.
prinzeofmoval 05-09-2008, 01:57 AM i really don't think moss is in as much danger as El..But all that means is ship up or ship out..
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