Darrell_Green_28
05-20-2008, 07:33 AM
I do not mean to sound rude, but I am simply amazed by how much hype there is surrounding this 6th round pick. He's small, he has a checkered past, and he looked less than impressive at the Senior Bowl. I hope he turns out to be a Pro Bowl QB, but there is a reason why all 32 teams passed on him in the first five rounds of the draft.
His recent surgery didn't any, I'm sure.
djnemo65
05-20-2008, 07:58 AM
To be fair, he was being talked about as a third round pick not so long ago. He had two bad games which dropped his stock - one in which he was severely over matched, the other in which he was injured - but he has quite a pedigree as far as sixth round picks go. He is the all-time NCAA TD leader, which is no small accomplishment.
It's cool that some are excited about Brennan but let's chill just a bit and wait until we see how he looks in live action in the NFL.
I think he's a bit of a project and will need some serious coaching up at the pro level before he's really ready to see serious action.
Until then let's hope JC continues to develop and never gives the coaches a reason to turn to Brennan.
sandtrapjack
05-20-2008, 09:25 AM
What I believe the hype about Colt is 2 things, 1 WCO, and 2 Joe Montana, he's about the same size as Joe, in the same type of offense, with probably the same type of arm strength, and mobility, Colt has been throughout his entire career a ridiculously accurate QB even in high school when he didn't have a run and shoot offense. I think in the back of a lot of minds that is what people are thinking, or hoping. Of coarse to believe he would be another Montana is quite hard right now and probably very unrealistic, but stranger things have happened, Montana 3rd rd, Brady 6th, and Brady couldn't start for his college team, so where he was drafted as far as I am concerned is irrelevant, what he can do on the field is, and we have a lot of time to find that out.
The level of competition has been a big concern, not so much for myself, he played against teams comparable to his own, his team couldn't handle a big time team, but that doesn't mean Colt couldn't if he had players of equal talent or there abouts on his team. The bottom line is this we used a 6th rd pick on this kid, how can you go wrong under those circumstances? We gave up a heck of a lot more for Campbell and still after 3 seasons we wait and wonder?
You are correct, comparing him to a "Montana" in any shape or form is ludicrous.
Facts are facts and nothing can change them. And the fact is Brennan was a very good player in a very bad conference. Say what you will about his accomplishments at Hawaii, but the reality is that Colt Brennan excelled in a conference that is more like a "farm league" for division 1. He was a "big fish in a small pond". But now he is being thrown into the deep end and he is just another fish. Unless it is an offensive lineman, the WAC (aka Weak-Ass-Conference) is known historically for producing standout players at that level, but once they get to the pro's, they struggle tremendously. See Timmy Chang. The proof is in the pudding, Brennan and Hawaii were undefeated until they played a REAL division 1 team, Georgia, in the Sugar Bowl and the Bulldogs EMBARASSED the Rainbow Warriors 41-10.
The biggest fact is the type of offense that June Jones ran at Hawaii, the "run and shoot", where traditionally you could put almost any old QB in the pocket and he will put up impressive numbers. But the run and shoot has not been used in the NFL since the Houston Oilers of the 90's. For this fact, Brennan is a project type player. He will have to re-learn the game from a new perspective against the best players in the world. He has a long road to travel. I seriously doubt that Brennan even makes through training camp, and I predict that he will be cut before the regular season.
Jason Campbell is the best option that give the Redskins the best opportunity to win. I don't think Brennan will even present a viable challenge to Campbell.
Nothing against Brennan, but I look at the school, conference and offense he came from, and none of them compare to anything he will see at the pro level.
I was shocked to see the 'Skins take him in the 6th round. I would have bet that he would have gone undrafted and you could have signed him as a UDFA and saved some money.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
05-20-2008, 09:36 AM
first, i think Brennen has minimum talent. but this logic is flawed. wasn't Brady a 6th rounder?
Wait, my logic was flawed?
Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. Tom Brady is a HoF quarterback. Colt Brennan was a 6th round pick. Therefore Colt Brennan is going ot be a HoF QB?
I didn't say it was impossible for Colt to be a good or even great QB. But let's be real, it's rather unlikely. For every Tom Brady there are hundreds of wash outs.
Monkeydad
05-20-2008, 10:32 AM
Colt Brennan = Ty Detmer
You're giving him too much credit. Detmer actually played in the NFL. :D
dmek25
05-20-2008, 10:43 AM
i think i just said all q.b's taken in the 6th round are hall of famers? Brennen will have his hands full just trying to make the team. sorry sheriff
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
05-20-2008, 10:51 AM
i think i just said all q.b's taken in the 6th round are hall of famers? Brennen will have his hands full just trying to make the team. sorry sheriff
My only points were: (1) that it is unlikely that Brennan will turn out to be some stud; and (2) I never said Brennan absolutely cannot become a good QB, so I don't know how my logic was flawed. I also realize that you do not think much of Brennan, but I cringe when I hear references to Brady being drafted in the 6th round.
redsk1
05-20-2008, 11:08 AM
It's always interesting to see how a QB makes the transition to the NFL after tearing it up in college. It's the Heisman trophy thing. Just b/c you might be the best player in college doesn't mean your game will continue to be the same in the pros. I think that's why you get so much disagreement.
In CB's case, he's a passer and not just an athelete who happens to play QB. It wll be interesting to see. Let's be realistic though, right now he's just trying to make the team. He's not going to play this year or next unless we have some serious injuires.
freddyg12
05-20-2008, 11:37 AM
Colt is a good athlete & throws the ball well, but that can be said of most of the qb's that go to nfl camps. He'll have to show some composure in the preseason after his last 2 outings as a college qb (v. Georgia & the senior bowl). It may not have been his fault but in that georgia game, you couldn't tell much about his game.
I don't think the coaches will be quick to cut him unless Hollenbach or someone else really emerges as decent prospect to be future #2. I see him at least making the practice squad.
He needs 2 solid years as a clip board holder. I think it will come down to his work ethic & patience. I believe he's talented enough to play in the nfl, he's just going to take a while to develop. He's light years behind JC at this point.