Giants Vs. Panthers

i miss Stephen Davis. Gibbs woulda loved him. sniff.

Well thats fine with me if the O-line sucks but Manning is just a Rookie and for him to go 9/15 for 117 yards against a very good Defense does not sound bad to me. He might be over throwing his recievers and what not but this is only his second game. I am not saying that I like Eli or I am rooting for him I am just interested in how he played against a starting D and like I said I am at work so his actual play maybe pretty bad but his numbers look ok to me.

The Panthers look really well. They moved the ball very efficently with Delhome, Davis and Smith.

Well thats fine with me if the O-line sucks but Manning is just a Rookie and for him to go 9/15 for 117 yards against a very good Defense does not sound bad to me. He might be over throwing his recievers and what not but this is only his second game. I am not saying that I like Eli or I am rooting for him I am just interested in how he played against a starting D and like I said I am at work so his actual play maybe pretty bad but his numbers look ok to me.

Point well taken.

Eli is getting decent yards between the 20's, but when he gets in the redzone he hasn't done crap.

The Panthers look really well. They moved the ball very efficently with Delhome, Davis and Smith.

What you see in the Carolina offense is what Gibbs is trying to instill in these guys. I mean John Fox is running the flea flicker in preseason for crying out loud. That means the offense understands the fundamentals and has moved on to trick plays which I don't think we'll see in the first three games of the regular season because it depends on having healthy backs' and receivers which we seem to be running out of.

Eli is getting decent yards between the 20's, but when he gets in the redzone he hasn't done crap.
You are right on with that, that was something that I did notice too.

What you see in the Carolina offense is what Gibbs is trying to instill in these guys. I mean John Fox is running the flea flicker in preseason for crying out loud. That means the offense understands the fundamentals and has moved on to trick plays which I don't think we'll see in the first three games of the regular season because it depends on having healthy backs' and receivers which we seem to be running out of.
Yeah isnt the o-coordinator for the panthers an understudy of gibbs?

Pour out the haterade fellas and admit that Eli did the right thing in the draft! He looks great ESPECIALLY for having a weak line, being a rookie, and going up against one of the best pass rushes in the league. He's not playing against backups, he's playing real ball. Let's check stats:

Here are our stats vs the same team who didn't play their starters for as long and we have a much better offensive line:

M. Brunell 6/15 119 1 1
T. Hasselbeck 6/15 65 0 2
P. Ramsey 4/11 62 0 1

Now here are Eli's stats for the first half against all starters:
E. Manning 9/15 117 0 0

He's a rookie, he'll make mistakes, and Toomer has helped A LOT. However, this kid is really showing up to play, give him some credit.

wow, these guys really make me appreciate how good our O-line is, even without jansen...