Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination

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saden1
06-06-2008, 09:00 PM
I don't think anyone can top Bush but this speech is borderline...maybe it's just me? What is he trying to say? Is he really smiling (starts at 1:30 sec)? Does anything he say line-up with his voting record?

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saden1
06-06-2008, 09:10 PM
When Fox News is trashing you, it's got to be awful!
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Sheriff Gonna Getcha
06-07-2008, 12:28 AM
Your such a typical Obama supporter. Wow he makes a bunch of great speeches where he talks alot about change and hope, but doesn't actually say anything. He promises to solve everybodys problems and people love it. Then he'll say how he's different from other politicians, even though he isn't. The speeches are just one slogan after another and how Bush is bad and he's going to change, so he must be great. The few ideas he does have aren't new and they are not going to work. Bigger government is not the answer, which is what he wants to do.

Obama is your typical politician in that he's promising a lot, trying to avoid giving detailed descriptions of how he will take us to the mountain top, etc. But if he's an ordinary politician in that regard, why do so many on the right seem to resent him? So what if he "talks big"....who cares? If all politicians "talk big," why is Obama being singled out for ridicule and being labeled someone with no substance?

Also, being an effective speaker, articulate, and charismatic is pretty damn important if you are the head of state. Your job is to inspire public confidence in government, communicate with foreign leaders, and push legislation through Congress. Like it or not, a great many people and politicians find Obama enormously appealing. He has the same "it" factor that Reagan and JFK had.

12thMan
06-07-2008, 02:57 PM
If McCain's strategy this Fall is to say Obama is all sizzle and no steak or that he gives great speeches, the GOP is in big trouble. People fail to see it's not that Obama simply gives great speeches, but he has the ability to connect that inspiration to tangible policy, ideas, and ideological differences between him and his opponent(s).

John McCain had better pound him on policy and experience, and not this gibberish about Obama only speaks well. And if experience was what people wanted from the Democratic nominee, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, and John Edwards would still be campaigning, would they not? And who can forget Bill Richardson's extensive resume? In terms of policy, there are vast differences between McCain and Obama. Plain and simple.

But to suggest that Senator Obama isn't electable or has empty ideas, is to somehow suggest that millions of Americans that voted for him, and the hundreds of others that endorsed him, are somehow delusional and caught up in the moment.

JWsleep
06-07-2008, 07:00 PM
It'll be Obama because it's very unlikely the party in power will hold the White House with a down economy, an unpopular war, and after holding the office for the last eight years. Obama has a savvy enough campaign staff to not mess up too bad, IMO. It's a very tough road for McCain, given the usual political trends.

As for politicians not being clear in speeches, promising too much, etc.: this is the nature of American politics and the politics of democracy in general. Nothing new here.

70Chip
06-07-2008, 09:33 PM
Is that really her doing, or ignorance on the part of Americans....or 70Chip's doing?

Thanks for the blurb. The latest rumor is that the Republicans have video of Michell Obama railing against "whitey" at church. Tell 10 friends.

FRPLG
06-07-2008, 10:01 PM
But to suggest that Senator Obama isn't electable or has empty ideas, is to somehow suggest that millions of Americans that voted for him, and the hundreds of others that endorsed him, are somehow delusional and caught up in the moment.

I think a lot of people would suggest that indeed. I realize primaries are not the time for ideas since it is very difficult to differentiate yourself from an opponent you usually stand shoulder to shoulder with but Obama has been remarkably light on ideas other than "change" in general. Given the current environment that might be enough but I find no fault with people who wonder what exactly he thinks he is going to do when he never really says other than pretty general directions.

70Chip
06-07-2008, 11:04 PM
Obama doesn't need issues, he's a "lightworker":

Is Obama an enlightened being? / Spiritual wise ones say: This sure ain't no ordinary politician. You buying it? (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/06/06/notes060608.DTL&type=printable)

SmootSmack
06-07-2008, 11:14 PM
It'll be Obama because it's very unlikely the party in power will hold the White House with a down economy, an unpopular war, and after holding the office for the last eight years. Obama has a savvy enough campaign staff to not mess up too bad, IMO. It's a very tough road for McCain, given the usual political trends.

Many thought the same thing in 2004. I don't know what the Democratic Party will do though if they don't win this election though. I mean it's there for the taking

FRPLG
06-08-2008, 12:06 AM
Obama doesn't need issues, he's a "lightworker":

Is Obama an enlightened being? / Spiritual wise ones say: This sure ain't no ordinary politician. You buying it? (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/06/06/notes060608.DTL&type=printable)

Holy crap. This guy thinks he Jesus.

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