Taxing the rich - what is the cutoff?

Philosophically, I'm right there with you. From a practical standpoint, a flat tax just won't work. Either our government would experience a drastic reduction in revenues, or way too many people would be thrust into poverty.
I agree. I would like to see us move to the Fair Tax. The Fair Tax would still be progressive in that those making more will spend more dollars, therefore paying the same or very close to the same percentage of the federal tax bill that they are paying now. I know there are some disagreements in the details of rate and who will actually be paying what portion of the federal tax bill, but the disagreements can be overcome (ref. to the FactCheck.org article). A new method of collecting federal taxes that reduces our tax code to something manageable, cuts the IRS to a fraction of its current size, taxes the underground economy, brings more businesses & jobs back to the U.S., and shuts down half of "K St." has my support.

saden, have you started drinking the kool aid? staying in Iraq for 100 years shouldn't even be an option. and im interested to hear what people think would happen, if we do pull out? and the comment about wiping terrorists off the face of the earth is down right brutal. i don't care if we fight the gazillion years in Iraq, there will always be terrorists. i think you have done a 180 degree turn in your thinking
Iran will probably take over Iraq, and then nuke Israel. Ahmadinejad is totally insane and said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map, which would bring us right back into the war, but it will be much, much worse.

Iran will probably take over Iraq, and then nuke Israel. Ahmadinejad is totally insane and said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map, which would bring us right back into the war, but it will be much, much worse.

I wish we could just drop a nuke on the Iranians and just be done with it.

you're adding so much value to the thread saden :/

I generally oppose starting wars because they are costly and often counterproductive and the American public has demonstrated that it lacks the intestinal fortitude to finish what it start (see Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq). I also believe our defense budget is, at least during peacetime, far too large. But, I also believe that you don't cause a mess, spend billions of dollars, lose thousands of troops, and lay American credibility (vis-a-vis our enemies, not Europe or college professor) on the line and simply walk away from the conflict and those who have stuck their necks out because it's tough or we are losing lives.

I am also pissed that I work 5 months out of the year for the government. I believe our taxes are WAY to high. I'd like to see cuts in taxes AND many government programs (including the defense budget). I don't think any of those ideas are contradictory.

You know I was going to join this thread on the discussion of taxes, but when I hear idiots actually defending staying in Iraq because we owe the poor Iraqi people, I just lose all respect for them. We should worry about Americans! Our leaders lied to us and there is absolutely no excuse to keep risking the lives of our troops to make up for the "mistakes" (yeah right) of Bush and Cheaney. The money we are spending on this war could be going to education and healthcare. Instead of feeling bad for Iraqi people, maybe you should think about the 50 million Americans that do not have healthcare. We are the only modern industrialized country that does not have universal healthcare. France is ranked No.1 by the W.H.O. (world healthcare org) and the U.S. is ranked 37th. In France if you are sick a doc will come to your house, here you are thrown in the street if do not have insurance. Anyone who supports Iraq, should not be allowed to speak!!! PERIOD!!!! You are an idiot who really needs to pick up a book and do some research about the ramifications this war has had on our country and for nothing. There is nothing to be gained. We have created more Anti-American sentiment by being there, than there was previously. Iraq was never a threat to us, it was Osama Bin Laden, whom we still have not caught. Thank god the days of the Republicans in Washington are coming to an end!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA says knock you out!!!

I don't really want to get deep into this discussion cause it ends up being a touchy subject for many, but the only true "fair" way to impose taxes is to make it a flat percentage. It's shouldn't matter if you make 1 million a year, or 10k a year, you should have the same percentage taken out of your check. (note, not the same "AMOUNT", but same "PERCENTAGE"). The fact that people that make more money are taxed more even though they worked for the money is beyond me. Punish the rich is not my idea of equality.

you're adding so much value to the thread saden :/


Thanks.

I don't really want to get deep into this discussion cause it ends up being a touchy subject for many, but the only true "fair" way to impose taxes is to make it a flat percentage. It's shouldn't matter if you make 1 million a year, or 10k a year, you should have the same percentage taken out of your check. (note, not the same "AMOUNT", but same "PERCENTAGE"). The fact that people that make more money are taxed more even though they worked for the money is beyond me. Punish the rich is not my idea of equality.

I couldn't agree more. If we had a flat tax everything would be great. If you make 10K you should get another job or second job and then you might be able to afford that $4.50 gallon of gas and that $4 gallon of milk and won't have to rely on a tax scheme that fleeces the rich.

You know I was going to join this thread on the discussion of taxes, but when I hear idiots actually defending staying in Iraq because we owe the poor Iraqi people, I just lose all respect for them. We should worry about Americans! Our leaders lied to us and there is absolutely no excuse to keep risking the lives of our troops to make up for the "mistakes" (yeah right) of Bush and Cheaney. The money we are spending on this war could be going to education and healthcare. Instead of feeling bad for Iraqi people, maybe you should think about the 50 million Americans that do not have healthcare. We are the only modern industrialized country that does not have universal healthcare. France is ranked No.1 by the W.H.O. (world healthcare org) and the U.S. is ranked 37th. In France if you are sick a doc will come to your house, here you are thrown in the street if do not have insurance. Anyone who supports Iraq, should not be allowed to speak!!! PERIOD!!!! You are an idiot who really needs to pick up a book and do some research about the ramifications this war has had on our country and for nothing. There is nothing to be gained. We have created more Anti-American sentiment by being there, than there was previously. Iraq was never a threat to us, it was Osama Bin Laden, whom we still have not caught. Thank god the days of the Republicans in Washington are coming to an end!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA says knock you out!!!

"if you don't agree with me you're stupid and not allowed to speak or have an opinion."

wow, that's productive and not at all close minded.

maybe you should do some of that aforementioned research.