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EternalEnigma21 09-02-2008, 12:43 PM QB: Campbell, Collins, Brennan.
C. Campbell is ok and decent depth. I think they can get it done if everything goes really well around them, but none of these guys are going to carry the team
Backs: Portis, Betts, Cartwright, Sellers.
A. Have to agree. These guys are pretty good.
WR: Moss, Randle El, Thrash, Thomas, Kelly.
C. ARE is a #3 and beyond 2005 moss is a #2, and has been his entire career. We need help here... Hopefully one of the younger guys but it takes a while at WR to adjust.
TE: Cooley, Davis, Yoder.
A. Cooley is one of the best and Davis has that kind of potential.
OL: Samuels, Kendall, Rabach, Thomas, Heyer, Jansen, Fabini, Rinehart, Geisinger.
B- they underacheive. Look at our ypc and # of hurries/sacks over the last couple of years. These guys could be elite. They should be
DL: Carter, Griffin, Golston, Taylor, Montgomery, Evans, James, Jackson, Alexander, Wilson.
B+. We'll see what they do, but they should actually be closer to an A.
LB: Washington, Fletcher, McIntosh, Blades, Campbell, Fincher.
A. Washington and fletcher give you 2 outstanding LBs and these young guys can ball. We could use depth, but what we've got is great.
CB: Springs, Smoot, Rogers, Torrence, Tryon.
B- sometimes Springs is one of the best in the game. Only reason they don't get an A is health concerns are constant with their physical play.
S: Landry, Doughty, Horton, Hamilton, Moore.
B+ Landry is good. Between the other youngsters there will be a combination that makes this unit one of the best in the league.
ST: Suisham, Brooks, Albright.
B. Not sure about the young P or suisham, but Danny smith has been awesome for us since day 1. The most consistent unit for the skins with the exception of the kicker carousel.
Paintrain 09-02-2008, 02:28 PM QB: Campbell, Collins, Brennan. B, I am a bigger believer in JC than most and have full confidence that Collins can come in and be effective for 3-4 games. Forget what we saw against backup, Brennan is a couple years from being ready for prime time.
Backs: Portis, Betts, Cartwright, Sellers. A, Best overall group in the division IMO.
WR: Moss, Randle El, Thrash, Thomas, Kelly. C+. I think this is the year that ARE steps up and has a breakout season. Moss is still too fragile for me and Thrash is pedestrian and wouldn't be a 3rd WR on most teams but the rookies aren't ready. If they develop, this can be a B+ by season's end.
TE: Cooley, Davis, Yoder. A-, making the assumption that Davis is as good as advertised and as he showed in preseason.
OL: Samuels, Kendall, Rabach, Thomas, Heyer, Jansen, Fabini, Rinehart, Geisinger. B+. I don't get why so many people are down on our OL.
DL: Carter, Griffin, Golston, Taylor, Montgomery, Evans, James, Jackson, Alexander, Wilson. B. I see 3 players who could start for most NFL teams and 4 depth guys any NFL team would want.
LB: Washington, Fletcher, McIntosh, Blades, Campbell, Fincher. C, a silent weakness on this team, easily the weakest part of the team. Old and brittle (Fletcher, Washington, McIntosh) or inexperienced/underqualified (Blades, Campbell, Fincher).
CB: Springs, Smoot, Rogers, Torrence, Tryon. C+. I'm happy with this lineup, but everyone is kinda fragile.
S: Landry, Doughty, Horton, Hamilton, Moore. B+. Landry brings this grade WAY up.. Doughty is the week link but I really like the youngsters. Springs playing some at FS bumps this up too.
ST: Suisham, Brooks, Albright. B-. I have high hopes for Brooks, Shazam misses more easy ones than I'd like and Albright is straight cash homie.
CRedskinsRule 09-02-2008, 03:01 PM QB: B I know I am bucking the C trend here, but I am hopeful that JC is going to make good in this offense. And Collins/Brennan I think better than average backups if JC goes down
RB: A No doubts here, they can certainly carry the load
OL: B+ I think they played well at the end of last year, and can really do good things this year
TE: A Great Group
WR: C- Definitely why we spent two picks to strengthen it going forward, but if both Moss and ARE play to their strengths (quick routes) then maybe it can go up.
DL: B with a chance to be elite if they don't give up outside runs
LB: B- Getting a little older, and really worry about injuries here
CB: B- Top 3 are solid if not elite depth and the schemes that are played will be a big factor here. I think there are as many chances for INT's with this group as there are big plays
S: B+ We are extremely lucky that LL was chosen, and has kind of taken on the mantel here.
Sp Teams: B+, Brooks is going to ASTOUND in games, and Suisham's leg looked good in pre-season, hopefully it carries through.
Matty Can we add one line?
Coaching: C+ This has to be considered a huge factor in our success (maybe even more than JC's development) I think the defensive side will benefit, but Zorn is definitely a work in progress. I hope by the end of the season (SB :woot: ) this area will be a solid A
hail_2_da_skins 09-02-2008, 03:08 PM My confidence level for the offense is fairly low right now. I feel as though the team has digressed in preseason. I'm concerned that the team has not grasped this offense and will struggle early. With the tough schedule, the Skins may be buried by the time they figure this offense out. The running game should do well. I'm worried about the lack of depth for the wide receivers. If they can't throw effectively, the running game will come to a halt. My confidence can be easily raised with a good offensive performance versus the Giants.
I think the defense will have to set the tone for the entire team. To be successful, they will have to create easy scoring opportunities. It all starts up front. The front seven will have to stop the run and put pressure on the opposing quarterback. I think they can get the job done.
dmvskinzfan08 09-02-2008, 04:35 PM I think the thing for JC is he needs to get in the rhythym for more than a Quarter..then he wont be so anxious and settle in. I think he has so much pressure on him he tries to do everything perfect without letting it go. I think if he scored on the our first series his confidence will soar from there on. If he puts in a solid game and we win..It will be a building block for his confidence and allow him to break out of his shell and produce big time.
doughtydoubter 09-02-2008, 07:02 PM Qbs= C+ like everyone is saying its make or break time for jason...and although i am probably one of the few on here that doesnt have confidence in collins i like colt as a 3rd tringer
Rbs= A- myonly concern is that are any of these guys home run hitters anymore?
wrs= C- Not really whati was hoping for out of the rookies this preseason and i am just waiting for moss or randle el to turn up lame
OL= B+ very solid, good mix of veterans and youth.
DL= B+ jason Taylor and andre...nuff said
LB= B Fletch and marcus are probaby two of my absolute favorite players on this team...i love seein "the strut" But i still am waiting for rocky to dominate or be energized...poor us spoiled by lavar.
Cbs- B+allthough we have concerns when we get to the bottom f our roster..our top 3 cbs are elite.
S- C+ the whole grade here, im really nervous about that SS spot right now tho...
ST= ummmm brooks rocks, the red snapper is back and im confident in suisham. sooo B
MY biggest concerns are wr health, special teams coverage and blocking, and the play of the safteys..
doughtydoubter 09-02-2008, 07:03 PM ohh and tes= A+ captain chaos all the way
The Goat 09-03-2008, 12:14 AM Awesome fucking thread. (Do me a solid on dropping the f bomb this one time mods, I just watched two straight hours of Entourage).
QB: Campbell, Collins, Brennan. D+. JC looks closer to a rook right now than a 3 year vet. I don't know what the headline should be, but I know I'm worried. The way JC goes so goes the offense and Thurs is reality day...
Backs: Portis, Betts, Cartwright, Sellers. A+. Couldn't honestly ask for more talent in the backfield. If Zorn will mix up the run game beyond what we saw under Gibbs the rushing attack could carry the offense until the air attack comes around. Of course a lot depends on the o-line here.
WR: Moss, Randle El, Thrash, Thomas, Kelly. D. Yeah I'm serious. This is the same posse from last year for all practical purposes. If JC was looking more accurate, particularly in those quick shot medium and short passes, I could raise this to a solid C. For know, our WR corp doesn't look to pop the TD cherry till late in the season (again).
TE: Cooley, Davis, Yoder. A-. These guys are the passing option for the next several games. I'm talking big targets w/ arguably better hands than our WRs. Again, we'll see just how creative coach Z will get, but if he will move Davis and Cooley around enough to give the opposing d different looks we should see some early fireworks in the air attack.
OL: Samuels, Kendall, Rabach, Thomas, Heyer, Jansen, Fabini, Rinehart, Geisinger. C. This group has to prove itself all over.
DL: Carter, Griffin, Golston, Taylor, Montgomery, Evans, James, Jackson, Alexander, Wilson. B- to A. A lot obviously depends on whether JT came to DC to play football, but I could argue just as much depends whether our DT rotation can make a difference in a regular season game. So far I'm disappointed Montgomery doesn't look set to have a break-out year... hey maybe Grilliams was wrong about the kid.
LB: Washington, Fletcher, McIntosh, Blades, Campbell, Fincher. B+. I feel better about this unit than before preseason. Marcus looks set to fly and we have legit depth now. Personally, I'm excited about Fincher because the guy reminds me a little of Marcus' from his energy and motor.
CB: Springs, Smoot, Rogers, Torrence, Tryon. B, this group consistently overachieves IMO and this year we actually have legit depth in Torrence, who looks to be developing nicely.
S: Landry, Doughty, Horton, Hamilton, Moore. C-. Landry's health still a question and Doughty can't seem to read the play.
ST: Suisham, Brooks, Albright. B, whatever.
Zorn: I believe we can have an 11-5 or a 5-11 season largely based on what Zorn can accomplish. Sure the air attack looks sketchy right now, but w/ so much talent in the backfield and among the TEs a creative playbook could easily compensate and even prove effective for a good early run. On the other hand, if we get stubborn and try to force JC to connect w/ the WR corp right away in the WC scheme things will probably get ugly before they get pretty.
hooskins 09-03-2008, 01:32 AM Am I the only nerd that though of statistics when they saw the title of the thread?
Ruhskins 09-03-2008, 01:42 AM Am I the only nerd that though of statistics when they saw the title of the thread?
Yes and No...Yes b/c ur the only one that noticed, but No b/c I knew what you were talking about right away.
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