Should we have signed Mason off Ravens PS?

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deathGRINDx
10-21-2008, 06:40 PM
Hey, i liked him just as much as anyone.. but were forgetting he was constantly playing against 3rd string defenses. guys who would never make the cut. maybe z hasnt admitted it yet, but we all know the original plan was a pass happy offense, so there was no sense in keeping a 4th running back. i think if z knew the running offense would be this good, he would have at least kept him on the practice squad. with all of this running, players are bound to get hurt.

dmvskinzfan08
10-22-2008, 04:35 PM
Hey, i liked him just as much as anyone.. but were forgetting he was constantly playing against 3rd string defenses. guys who would never make the cut. maybe z hasnt admitted it yet, but we all know the original plan was a pass happy offense, so there was no sense in keeping a 4th running back. i think if z knew the running offense would be this good, he would have at least kept him on the practice squad. with all of this running, players are bound to get hurt.

Excellent point!!

doughtydoubter
10-22-2008, 09:27 PM
everyone falls in love with sa because of what hes done..but he is washed up otherwise he would still be a seahawk. I am with you on having some youth in the backfield...personally i dont know what our infatuation with betts and rock has been the past two years (i get that rock is stellar on teams...but when is he ever gonna break it) It would be nice to have a shifty young set of legs back there, not a tired old set. Im not saying SA will do terrible. Stephen Davis did wonders for carolina after we cut him and said he was done. BUT i think in this offseason we need to let one of the two backups go and make a move towards grooming some youth..i liked mason he earned a spot. We shoul dhae trded betts when he had some value.

DynamiteRave
10-22-2008, 09:51 PM
everyone falls in love with sa because of what hes done..but he is washed up otherwise he would still be a seahawk. I am with you on having some youth in the backfield...personally i dont know what our infatuation with betts and rock has been the past two years (i get that rock is stellar on teams...but when is he ever gonna break it) It would be nice to have a shifty young set of legs back there, not a tired old set. Im not saying SA will do terrible. Stephen Davis did wonders for carolina after we cut him and said he was done. BUT i think in this offseason we need to let one of the two backups go and make a move towards grooming some youth..i liked mason he earned a spot. We shoul dhae trded betts when he had some value.

Trade Betts for who? Portis is the face of this franchise and will hopefully be here until he decides to hang it up and a young guy is not going to want to play backup forever. Betts is a solid guy who is great as a 2nd stringer and doesn't seem to mind the role. Cutting Rock is out of the question being that we he's basically the best kickoff returner we got. Plus the guy goes out and plays smashmouth football week in and week out. Unless you wanna put ARE back there for kickoffs and you know how terrible he is at running back punts, I don't think you want him running back your kicks as well.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

SouperMeister
10-22-2008, 10:24 PM
Trade Betts for who? Portis is the face of this franchise and will hopefully be here until he decides to hang it up and a young guy is not going to want to play backup forever. Betts is a solid guy who is great as a 2nd stringer and doesn't seem to mind the role. Cutting Rock is out of the question being that we he's basically the best kickoff returner we got. Plus the guy goes out and plays smashmouth football week in and week out. Unless you wanna put ARE back there for kickoffs and you know how terrible he is at running back punts, I don't think you want him running back your kicks as well.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.What about Devin Thomas as a KR option. He did it in college, and he has excellent size and speed. We may as well get something out of the guy!!!

DynamiteRave
10-22-2008, 10:35 PM
What about Devin Thomas as a KR option. He did it in college, and he has excellent size and speed. We may as well get something out of the guy!!!

I remember a few weeks back they were talking about using Thomas for punt returns and people were saying how terrible he was at it during pre-season (I wouldn't know I didn't follow pre-season)

MTK
10-22-2008, 11:16 PM
I don't think Thomas returned any punts during the preseason.

GTripp0012
10-22-2008, 11:37 PM
They are also teams not exactly known for the stellar personnel moves.Right, but how brilliant does a team need to be to consider the possibility of having a former MVP on their team at the vet min?

I agree with what you are saying, but these are the teams that did bring him in for the workouts. It's the 28 other teams that would better fit your point.

dmvskinzfan08
10-23-2008, 01:00 AM
Trade Betts for who? Portis is the face of this franchise and will hopefully be here until he decides to hang it up and a young guy is not going to want to play backup forever. Betts is a solid guy who is great as a 2nd stringer and doesn't seem to mind the role. Cutting Rock is out of the question being that we he's basically the best kickoff returner we got. Plus the guy goes out and plays smashmouth football week in and week out. Unless you wanna put ARE back there for kickoffs and you know how terrible he is at running back punts, I don't think you want him running back your kicks as well.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Its too late. We should have traded Betts when we had the chance. But as far as Rock. I just dont get why he is so valuable. I think Thrash could do just a good of job as a kick-off returner and how old is he? If we are saying that we can't groom someone to be a KR. That's sad. Rock has shown me nothing that makes him that valuable. He doesn't fumble. Ok that's good. But it that the only reason you want to keep him on the team. He is a good leader on "special teams" are you serious. We need someone more explosive as KR and also someone who can spell Betts and Portis because Portis has 3-4 more years left and Betts is a good fill-in but not a starting running back (had one good year). Yeah I said it.

We need some youth to groom for the future. SA is good for a couple of carries to spell Portis to when Betts comes back. But we have to look to the future. Like I said Mason has skill and instinct. He can learn the plays (or could have learned the plays as a 3rd back). Its easier to learn plays than it is to be talented. Also you can't teach youth. Mason backing up Portis (at this point in the season) with the O-line the way it is. I really doubt he couldn't pickup the plays. It was more about keeping Kelly and some extra DBs for depth.

But I am frankly tired of hearing about Rock Rock Rock. He is no Devin Hester. He is no Dante Hall. He is no Reggie Bush. He is no Brian Mitchell. He is not even a number 2 back. Kill the noise.

doughtydoubter
10-23-2008, 07:07 AM
We need some youth to groom for the future. SA is good for a couple of carries to spell Portis to when Betts comes back. But we have to look to the future. Like I said Mason has skill and instinct. He can learn the plays (or could have learned the plays as a 3rd back). Its easier to learn plays than it is to be talented. Also you can't teach youth. Mason backing up Portis (at this point in the season) with the O-line the way it is. I really doubt he couldn't pickup the plays. It was more about keeping Kelly and some extra geDBs for depth.

But I am frankly tired of hearing about Rock Rock Rock. He is no Devin Hester. He is no Dante Hall. He is no Reggie Bush. He is no Brian Mitchell. He is not even a number 2 back. Kill the noise.

Great post..all you rock lovers silence until he does something to prove hes not just danny smiths shower buddy.

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