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budw38
11-02-2008, 03:02 PM
YouTube - dems iraq wmd

Slingin Sammy 33
11-02-2008, 04:01 PM
Great clip. But Dems/libs will say the Bush Admin charged into Iraq unilaterally. Folks can say what they want about Republicans, but most have stayed consistent in their positions and worked through the challenges in Iraq. Unlike those in the video, they haven't changed their tune with the favoring political winds or public opinion polls.

redsk1
11-03-2008, 12:26 PM
Great post. It's easy to play MMQB. It's easy to say it's Bush's fault. Say what you want about GB, but he does what he sais and he sees things thru no matter how popular it may or may not be. It's easy to flip flop back and forth as times goes on.

dmek25
11-03-2008, 01:50 PM
to me, that's one of his biggest faults. even when he knows, along with everyone else, that he is wrong, he refuses to change course. the senate never saw the entire briefing. only the bits and pieces that this administration wanted them to see. but this is all water under the bridge

Skins fan 44
11-03-2008, 01:58 PM
WOW!!! Amazing how they all forget and they act like they were brainwashed by Bush. None of it would of happened if Clinton would of kept him under control when he was in office. Rather then drop a couple of bombs when he was getting impeached to make people forget about why he was getting impeached.

I feel for you people.

redsk1
11-03-2008, 02:12 PM
to me, that's one of his biggest faults. even when he knows, along with everyone else, that he is wrong, he refuses to change course. the senate never saw the entire briefing. only the bits and pieces that this administration wanted them to see. but this is all water under the bridge

I don't know all of the details but i would imagine there would have been many, many people involved in the briefing, both Dems and Republicans that GB recieved, especially when all, or most of congress was backing the war. I can't imagine that they didn't do their due diligence. But, yes, what's done is done and once we went in it's tough to just walk away no matter what the reason was originally. I guess that was my point. It's not popular but we're in and we had to stay the course. I think we can all agree that we want to get out of there, so I hope that time comes soon.

Slingin Sammy 33
11-03-2008, 07:28 PM
to me, that's one of his biggest faults. even when he knows, along with everyone else, that he is wrong, he refuses to change course. the senate never saw the entire briefing. only the bits and pieces that this administration wanted them to see. but this is all water under the bridge
I call B.S. George Tenet was a Clinton appointee who Bush kept in place (which hasn't happened since before Jimmy Carter, a huge Bush misake IMO). Tenet spoke for the entire Intel community and briefed Colin Powell prior to his speech at the UN. Jay Rockefeller (Vice Chair of the Senate Intel Committee) and the Senate Dems had the same info as everyone else.

Going into Iraq was a complete bi-partisan effort. Once the public opinion polls showed some distaste for the war, the Dems ran for cover and threw Bush, the Republicans, and what our brave men & women in uniform are fighting and dying for under the bus, plain and simple. Iraq is far more stable than the Dems are willing to give credit for (I wonder if the election has anything to do with it???)

Beemnseven
11-05-2008, 10:33 PM
Guess what? They were all wrong. Democrats and Republicans.

Here's why they should have known Saddam Hussein didn't have the weapons: Israel would have taken them out. And they wouldn't have asked us first.

Also, if he did have all those awful weapons, why didn't he use them when we were about to invade? When the Big Bad Wolf is pounding on your front door, threatening to kill you and your sons, are you going to hide your .45 with your neighbor?

djnemo65
11-05-2008, 10:47 PM
I don't see a lot of liberals defending the 2002 congress. Did you see Clinton lose the primary to Obama, her campaign derailed against all odds by movement liberals furious over her support of the war resolution?

Anyway, if your point is that a lot of congressional democrats suck you'll get no argument from many liberals. And if that's not your point than what is?

And don't the left get any credit from you for like, you know, being completely proven right about the war?

Slingin Sammy 33
11-05-2008, 11:17 PM
And don't the left get any credit from you for like, you know, being completely proven right about the war?
How has the left been "proven completely right" about the war in Iraq?

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