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757SkinsGirl 12-02-2008, 12:59 PM Have said this before but, people want to point the finger at Fast Food as the cancer that is causing us to be fat. Really I think it is the Chilis and TGFI type restaurants that are the worst, some of their meals can equal up to three Big Macs. It is crazy!
This is why I eat grilled chicken and steamed veggies when I go to resturaunts.
This (http://calorielab.com/index.html) may also come in handy.
BURGER KING, DOUBLE WHOPPER, with cheese 1 item 1,061.3 calories...
dmek25 12-02-2008, 01:27 PM i love me some double whopper :)
757SkinsGirl 12-02-2008, 02:18 PM :P so do your arteries
mredskins 12-02-2008, 02:29 PM This is why I eat grilled chicken and steamed veggies when I go to resturaunts.
This (http://calorielab.com/index.html) may also come in handy.
BURGER KING, DOUBLE WHOPPER, with cheese 1 item 1,061.3 calories...
Well I agree that would be the best choice at restaurants I would not waste my time or money to go out to eat grilled chix with steamed veggies, I would stay home for that. No one is saying you can't indulge in those foods once in awhile just don't make it an every day thing. No one meal has every made someone fat only.
Big Mac
540 calories 29g Fat
McDonald's USA - Bag A McMeal (http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal/itemDetailInfo.do)
Chilis Ceaser Salad w/ Grilled Chix
1010 calories 76g Fat
Menu at Chili's Grill & Bar (http://chilis.com/menu/default.asp)
"Oh I will just eat healthy and have a salad at Chilis instead of a Big Mac"
I use this example becuse my co-worker's over weight daughter is always on a diet and she eats health by having Ceaser Salads. Pffff...
djnemo65 12-02-2008, 07:33 PM Problems with the American diet are vast. Are portions are too large but the diet itself is also deeply flawed.
Problems with the American diet are vast. Are portions are too large but the diet itself is also deeply flawed.
True, diets don't work.
You have to change the way you eat to be keep weight off for the long term. It's a lifestyle change. A diet is a quick fix.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-02-2008, 10:13 PM How about 1,200+ calorie burritos at Chipotle and Qdoba? Delicious, yet so so bad.
djnemo65 12-02-2008, 10:37 PM Yeah, what's interesting is that the American diet has grown largely out of modern expediency. However, while things like fast food, processed food, and cheap availability of meat are all signs of affluence and technological advancement, they also lead to myriad health risks. Humans have evolved to eat traditional diets, which were historically balanced nutritionally by availability of resources. Heavy on produce and breads, light on meats. That's why a traditional diet - Italian, Japanese, Greek, Korean, take your pick - is so much healthier than the hodgepodge of big meats and take-out us Americans are used to. We have evolved to be best served by that kind of balance.
This is reflected in things like the incidence of diabetes and heart-disease in the aforementioned countries versus ours. Also interesting is that people who emigrate from those countries are immediately at risk for things like diabetes at a rate equal to those born in America, basically like the day they arrive. Moreover, as globalism and westernization brings KFC to countries like China they are starting to encounter the same problems there.
I heard a scientist make an interesting argument, suggesting that in a few thousand years humans will evolve to the point where eating McDonalds might actually be optimally nutritional. However, in lieu of that, one interested in prolonging their life should think about some radical dietary changes.
757SkinsGirl 12-03-2008, 09:36 AM Well I agree that would be the best choice at restaurants I would not waste my time or money to go out to eat grilled chix with steamed veggies, I would stay home for that. No one is saying you can't indulge in those foods once in awhile just don't make it an every day thing. No one meal has every made someone fat only.
Big Mac
540 calories 29g Fat
McDonald's USA - Bag A McMeal (http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal/itemDetailInfo.do)
Chilis Ceaser Salad w/ Grilled Chix
1010 calories 76g Fat
Menu at Chili's Grill & Bar (http://chilis.com/menu/default.asp)
"Oh I will just eat healthy and have a salad at Chilis instead of a Big Mac"
I use this example becuse my co-worker's over weight daughter is always on a diet and she eats health by having Ceaser Salads. Pffff...
I'm not saying I don't ever go all out when I do go out to dinner, but I do try and avoid anything fried. I don't ever put salt on anything and try not to over-do it on things like butter, for example. Those are just a few things I try to do to cut corners here and there.
As for the Ceasar Salads...obviously, it's the dressing where all the calories come from. Don't get me wrong...I LOVE Ceasar Salads, but when I make them at home, I use fat free Ceasar dressing. Idk. I try and just eat until full and then stop, vs. eating until I drop. Most peoples stomachs can really only accomodate about a fist full of food, and I think a lot of people can still hear their mothers "...eat everything on your plate! There are starving children in the world..." so we feel we're being wasteful if we don't...Something else I've learned...Drink a glass of water before your meal. It fills you, meaning you eat less food.
*shrug*
JoeRedskin 12-03-2008, 09:56 AM I heard a scientist make an interesting argument, suggesting that in a few thousand years humans will evolve to the point where eating McDonalds might actually be optimally nutritional. However, in lieu of that, one interested in prolonging their life should think about some radical dietary changes.
Well, if we change our diet to eating healthy, we will never evolve the ability to eat McD's to live healthy. Thus, by eating McD's today, I am increasing the ability of my descendants to live well off fast food in the future.
I guess I'll just have to take one for team humanity.
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