Hoping for more Intermediate passing vs the Bengals?

We did have a lot of plays involving Cooley earlier in the season. I would also like to see more of that. As far as Moss what a waste of talent. Very similar to Michael Westbrook. Go Skins!!!!!!


In Santana's defense, Westbrook had a better offensive scheme that he worked under. I would gladly take the trio of Westbrook, Sheppard, and Connell, over the trio we have now also. WE might not have had the best records, but at least our offense could score with those guys and that scheme. Moss has had to deal with dink and dunk under Brunell, and almost the same thing under Zorn with JC. Moss is a classic Wideout who would have been killer had he played with Art Monk and the boys way back during Gibbs I.

I say throw our top 3 draft picks in all game.
It is the ideal time to get them to develop for next year.
If we win, great...if not, at least they get some experience.
Bench Portis again and shove a sock in his mouth.
Give the ball to Sellers, Rock and Betts.

Its time to become a head coach.

i hope your right about getting some good pass pro this game, but i think if it happens its more about the bengals lack of pass rush then expecting 2 young non-starting tackles to play lights out. im excited to see what we do sunday.


I'm not expecting them to play lights out, but they're both healthy and that alone is an improvement over Samuels and Jansen. Heyer is young but he was the starter @ RT before his injury and Fabini is a veteran with lots of starting experience.

He [Fabini] joined the Redskins in 2007 and played in 16 regular-season games with 13 starts at right guard
Fabini has appeared in 145 career games with 127 starts, mostly lining up at left tackle in his 10 NFL seasons.

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on the 3 step drop thing i havent seen alot of that. maybe b/c JC doesnt get rid of the ball quick enough so it looks like he takes 3 steps, holds onto the ball, has to try and avoid pressure, takes some more steps, etc = just hard to tell if it was a 3 step drop b/c the ball doesnt come out after 3 steps.

Maybe that's what you see. But, i've seen alot of 3 step drop passing.
Sometimes the receivers aren't open because some teams are playing underneath coverage in effort to take the short passes away and JC has to hold the ball, then the pressure comes.


id be interested to really see how many 3 step drop plays we call,

Hopefully this game won't provide a good example of the 3-step drop focus, because we'll try get the intermediate passing game going. But, i'd bet that we'll start off with the 3-step stuff and if you look at the previous games JC thows alot of hitches, slants an quick in-breaking routes from rhythm in a 3 step drop.

i thought this quick spread WCO passing scheme protects a weak o line b/c the ball is supposed be gone by the time the rushers can get to the qb

The 3 step drop (quick passing scheme) does protect a weak offense line that's why we do it soo much. And i wouldn't exactly call our offense a spread WCO because we rarely go 4-5 wide. Although i think we should, i would love to see more 4-5 wide and put JC in shotgun.

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I'm not expecting them to play lights out, but they're both healthy and that alone is an improvement over Samuels and Jansen. Heyer is young but he was the starter @ RT before his injury and Fabini is a veteran with lots of starting experience.

He [Fabini] joined the Redskins in 2007 and played in 16 regular-season games with 13 starts at right guard
Fabini has appeared in 145 career games with 127 starts, mostly lining up at left tackle in his 10 NFL seasons.

Jason Fabini (http://www.redskins.com/gen/players/Jason_Fabini.jsp)



Maybe that's what you see. But, i've seen alot of 3 step drop passing.
Sometimes the receivers aren't open because some teams are playing underneath coverage in effort to take the short passes away and JC has to hold the ball, then the pressure comes.




Hopefully this game won't provide a good example of the 3-step drop focus, because we'll try get the intermediate passing game going. But, i'd bet that we'll start off with the 3-step stuff and if you look at the previous games JC thows alot of hitches, slants an quick in-breaking routes from rhythm in a 3 step drop.



The 3 step drop (quick passing scheme) does protect a weak offense line that's why we do it soo much. And i wouldn't exactly call our offense a spread WCO because we rarely go 4-5 wide. Although i think we should, i would love to see more 4-5 wide and put JC in shotgun.

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I like that idea(5 wide), but we don't have the horses yet to effectively go 5 wide. The rooks need to step up there game for us to do that or JC might end up getting killed. Hell, has Kelly even played in a game yet?

I'm hoping for some solid pass protection and the rest will take care of itself.

Is Jordan Palmer starting for the Bengals???

I like that idea(5 wide), but we don't have the horses yet to effectively go 5 wide. The rooks need to step up there game for us to do that or JC might end up getting killed. Hell, has Kelly even played in a game yet?

Idk bro, we've gone 4/5 wide with success with: Moss, ARE, DT11, Cooley and Thrash/Kelly/Portis/Betts

but IMO Zorn doesn' do it often

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I'm hoping for some solid pass protection and the rest will take care of itself.

I think JC and the passing game are gonna really get it going. (but i always feel that way)

HTTR!
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I say throw our top 3 draft picks in all game.
It is the ideal time to get them to develop for next year.
If we win, great...if not, at least they get some experience.
Bench Portis again and shove a sock in his mouth.
Give the ball to Sellers, Rock and Betts.

Its time to become a head coach.

I agree. More important to me that we build this team and get it ready now to be contenders for years to come than to retard the growth of our team just to get in the playoffs and be eliminated early.

Here is somthing that might work. Throw past the first down markers! Sorry just really frustrated!!!!Biggest problem the offense has is the ability to complete our passes on the other side of the first down markers. Those passes tend to be incomplete where our passes short of the marker tend to be complete, though we get tackled like a yard short.

I'd like to see us scrap the sticks throw on third down. Either go further down the field, or run and try to get the first.

Second down is when this offense should be throwing at the sticks, because catching the ball a yard or two short of it on third down is still a successful play by definition. On third, the same play is unsuccessful.

Just as frustrated as you are, but see it as a minor tweak rather than an offensive overhaul.

Biggest problem the offense has is the ability to complete our passes on the other side of the first down markers...............
I'd like to see us scrap the sticks throw on third down. Either go further down the field,
The combination of Stephon Heyer/Jason Fabini and the Bengals anemic pass rush the Skins should result in much better pass-pro.
Hopefully, the improved pass-pro will allow JZ/JC to look further downfield and get the passing game going.
If we can't get the passing game going against the Bengals then i doubt it will show up against the Eagles.

This game is where the passing attack gets its swagger back

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