T.O.Killa
12-14-2008, 10:29 PM
Please don't mention Fossil. The guy is such a sorry ass that he sent a letter to Al Davis asking to please hire him as a coach. NO THANKS!!
I am just saying that Snyder has wanted him forever, and probably feels pissed off, that he did not hire him all these times.
GTripp0012
12-14-2008, 10:29 PM
Am I the only one here who thinks Zorn is safe because Snyder fears an Oakland-esque situation more than he fears that he was wrong on Zorn?
Obviously, this shouldn't matter in the discussion of doesn't Zorn deserve to keep his job or not, but I think it's an academic discussion because he isn't going anywhere.
NYCSkin
12-14-2008, 10:34 PM
Didn't Cerrato really want Zorn?
Therefore if Snyder was to fire Zorn--doesn't he have to hold Cerrato accountable as well? And since I don't think Snyder will hold Cerrato's feet to the fire--I think Zorn is safe for next year...
I hope he comes as a packaged deal with that DLine.
redskins5044
12-14-2008, 10:43 PM
i want to know why zorn should be fired? this his first year as a head coach and at worst we finish 7-9. i understand we started 6-2, but our team was not that good. he hasnt had a chance to get his personnel in here to run his system. i dont think campbell is the type of QB he wants to run his system. here is some food for thought here are some numbers of first year head coaches. Bill Walsh 1979 2-14; Bill Parcells 1983 3-12-1; Jimmy Johnson 1989 1-15; and our own Joe Gibbs 1981 8-8
T.O.Killa
12-14-2008, 10:53 PM
He took over a 9-7 team that went to the playoffs. He is 1-5 in the last six games. Our team looks like a high school team. Penelties and play calling that has resembled Spurrier. I think Zorn should never have been hired in the first place. I hope wether they fire him or not it works out, but I am skeptical that he is the right coach.
skinsfan69
12-14-2008, 10:55 PM
Watching this Giants-Cowboys game and the thinking is he was the right man for this job. I hope after this season we look at this guy as the next head coach instead of Bill Cowher. He would be cheaper and this guy brings pressure like no one. He would do wonders with a defense led by Fletcher, Taylor, Carter, New Defensive Tackle (draft or free agent), Hall, Rogers and Landry!! I believe we have more athletes than the Giants do but hey they have a better scheme. I know we want consistency but Zorn and Campbell both need to go. Spagnuolo, Eagles QB coach as defensive coordinator and an assistant from Giants that he may bring with him to be the defensive coordinator would be alright heading into the future. Also m a new special teams coach. What do you guys think?
This thread is so stupid. The Giants won the SB for a reason. They had the best players. Our players are not as good as theirs. You talk about Taylor and Carter but you fail to realize that they're not top NFL pass rushers. Is he going to bring the Giants defensive line with him too?? Get real bro.
GTripp0012
12-14-2008, 11:03 PM
This thread is so stupid. The Giants won the SB for a reason. They had the best players. Our players are not as good as theirs. You talk about Taylor and Carter but you fail to realize that they're not top NFL pass rushers. Is he going to bring the Giants defensive line with him too?? Get real bro.Well, we absoultely don't have a Justin Tuck, but we have the rest of the pieces Spags has.
Now, obviously, having the best weapon in the NFL makes him look a lot smarter, but he knows what he's doing, I think.
53Fan
12-14-2008, 11:50 PM
i want to know why zorn should be fired? this his first year as a head coach and at worst we finish 7-9. i understand we started 6-2, but our team was not that good. he hasnt had a chance to get his personnel in here to run his system. i dont think campbell is the type of QB he wants to run his system. here is some food for thought here are some numbers of first year head coaches. Bill Walsh 1979 2-14; Bill Parcells 1983 3-12-1; Jimmy Johnson 1989 1-15; and our own Joe Gibbs 1981 8-8
Might as well throw in Andy Reid 5-11
sportscurmudgeon
12-14-2008, 11:58 PM
GTripp:
Methinks you overestimate some of the Skins' players. Can any of the Skins' DTs really get any playing time on the Giants? Not without injuries...
Both DEs on the Giants - - Kiawanuka and Tuck - - are better than any/all of the DEs on the Skins. Hell, the Giants DL is good enough to make Philip Daniel look good - - and we know that didn't happen here.
At LB, it is a wash in the middle; both teams are strong there. But Blades and Rocky wouldn't start for the Giants on the outside. Not even close.
I think Spagnuolo is a very good DC - - better than Greg Blache and better than Gregg Williams and the equal of Jim Johnson in Philly - - AND he has superior talent to the Skins on the defensive side of the ball.
Ergo: Giants win the AFC East this year after a Super Bowl last year and Skins now need a miracle to sneak into the playoffs.