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GTripp0012 12-15-2008, 01:43 AM I said this another thread and I'll say again. The defense has been a top ten group the whole year. We're good at points allowed, yardage and 3 and outs. We don't sack the QB because we can't. We don't have pass rushers. The one real playmaker we had was tragically killled. The offense puts them in shitty postions all the time...like today when Santana had to show off after he scored....then our sorry as hell kicker kicks it out of bounds. Blache and his group has held it together considering the circumstances. We're not the most talented defesne but those guys get the job done. For anyone to call out Blache and the defense simply do not know a damn thing about football.You took are single best defensive drive of the day, and used it as an argument that Blache never does anything wrong.
We have nothing but pass rushers at defensive end. That's all Chris Wilson, and Jason Taylor can do. Carter is a strong pass rusher. Even Evans is stronger against the pass than he is the run. Yet, they still never get sacks. Gee, it couldn't be because a man who claims that "sacks don't matter (http://www.bearshistory.com/lore/passrushrevival.aspx)" is coaching the defense?
In 2003, Dick Jauron disciple Greg Blache told the media that "sacks don't matter" in the scheme of his defense, and his players backed up his words, finishing with a franchise-low 18.
GTripp0012 12-15-2008, 02:07 AM Just understand that as long as Blache is the coordinator, sack totals aren't going to increase. Low sack totals were a staple in Chicago, and our 21 sacks this year aren't much better.
skinsfan69:
I don't know anything about football.
So please review the plays for me in the fourth quarters of the Cowboys, Ravens and Bengals games when the Skins needed a defensive stop to get the ball back with a chance to win or tie the game. Tell me how the "Top 10" defense produced when it mattered.
I'll hang up now and wait for my answer...
that's pretty much what I'm talking about there.
Just understand that as long as Blache is the coordinator, sack totals aren't going to increase. Low sack totals were a staple in Chicago, and our 21 sacks this year aren't much better.
Again, that's what I'm concerned about there.
Looking at the teams that win the Super Bowl, and hell even the ones who just beat us I can't help but think sacks do matter.
irish 12-15-2008, 07:42 AM The Skins have a good D but it doesnt make stops when the game is on the line, doesnt win games, doesnt turn games around. Somehow they need to find a way to take that next step from good to great.
Joe Kidd 12-15-2008, 09:27 AM Sadly when our DBs have caught an INT, the offense has not been able to capitalize.
That's a good point but it doesn't let the D completely off the hook. They've dropped too many INTs, it's just not acceptable.
I do agree the offense is a big problem. When you're scoring 10 points a game you're just not going to beat many teams in this league no matter how good your defense is.
skinsfan69 12-15-2008, 10:09 AM You took are single best defensive drive of the day, and used it as an argument that Blache never does anything wrong.
We have nothing but pass rushers at defensive end. That's all Chris Wilson, and Jason Taylor can do. Carter is a strong pass rusher. Even Evans is stronger against the pass than he is the run. Yet, they still never get sacks. Gee, it couldn't be because a man who claims that "sacks don't matter (http://www.bearshistory.com/lore/passrushrevival.aspx)" is coaching the defense?
Why don't you think they get sacks? Is it because Blache tells them not to rush the passer? Please! These comments make no sense what so ever. Yes we have guys that specialize in sacking the QB but they're not very good at it actually doing it. All the guys you mentioned would not start for NY or Dallas.
birdz4gibbs 12-15-2008, 12:01 PM like momma says if you don,t have anything good to say don,t say anything at all..
so i,ll just be quiet and deal with this slide this team keeps finding themselve being in every year at this point in the season...
thats about it ....
jbcjr14 12-15-2008, 01:23 PM like momma says if you don,t have anything good to say don,t say anything at all..
so i,ll just be quiet and deal with this slide this team keeps finding themselve being in every year at this point in the season...
thats about it ....
This is the first time in three years the team has had a "slide" in December....
Why don't you think they get sacks? Is it because Blache tells them not to rush the passer? Please! These comments make no sense what so ever. Yes we have guys that specialize in sacking the QB but they're not very good at it actually doing it. All the guys you mentioned would not start for NY or Dallas.
Or the D-philosophy doesn't allow for it.
I think Taylor and Carter are still starters elsewhere but I've heard the Blache's set-up actually encourages them to make sure it isn't a run before heading all out to the QB
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