Pink slip Monday

Brian Billick won a Super Bowl but that doesn't mean I think he's a great coach.

Brian Billick won a Super Bowl but that doesn't mean I think he's a great coach.

He may not be a great coach but if the objective is to win a SB and he has 1 he can't possibly be a bad coach. Granted, I wouldn't hire him but I wouldn't fault anyone else for hiring him nor would I go after Cowher. I'm not interested in lame duck coaches, plus I like Zorn and I would like to give him more time to see what he can do.

I agree.
I can't believe every forgot about the Cowher/Kordell Stewert days.

You mean when they went to the AFC Championship twice?

Mangini firing seems unwarranted. I'm sure he'll be a good head coach sometime in the future.
i cant remember who was calling the jets game, but they kept saying it seems like the coaching staff has no control over whats going on out on the field.

He may not be a great coach but if the objective is to win a SB and he has 1 he can't possibly be a bad coach. Granted, I wouldn't hire him but I wouldn't fault anyone else for hiring him nor would I go after Cowher. I'm not interested in lame duck coaches, plus I like Zorn and I would like to give him more time to see what he can do.

Oh I don't think Cowher is a bad coach, I think he is a good coach. I just don't think he's the "come in turn everything around and win a Super Bowl right away" guy a lot of people seem to think he is. At least that's the impression I get. Most coaches aren't even given the amount of time to win a Super Bowl Cowher was given in Pittsburgh. Marty went what, 14-2 in San Diego and was let go the next year. Gibbs won the Super Bowl in his second year and won 3 in 12 years where Bill did'nt win one until his 14th year. I think he's more like Marty than Gibbs or Walsh or someone like that. Which is to be expected since he was a pupil of Marty's. Not that being like Marty is bad. If you're satisfied with a winning record and have patience, he's your man. He turned Pittsburgh around quickly in the win column when he got there and he'll probably do it again at his next stop but winning a Super Bowl, in and of itself, doesn't necessarily make you a great coach or guarantee you'll do it again. That's all I'm saying. Look at Barry Switzer. Just like you, I'm not really into lameduck coaches or retreads, Gibbs was an exception, we needed some hope and remembrance of what we once were at the time, and I'd like to give Zorn a chance to see what he can do.

I guess it's similar to how we don't understand your love fest with Cam Cameron.

At least Cowher has won more than 1 game in his career. ;)

Laugh all you want. I hope one of those teams that fired their coaches hires him (preferably Cleveland) Maybe then you'll become a believer. Name me a coach that was able get the production out of a rookie QB (before you say Matt Ryan, Flacco was an unknown player) got his underachiever WR (Clayton) and old man (Mason) a beat up almost washed RB (Maghee) a rookie RB (Rice) a backup (McLain) and a rebuilt OL to average like 30pts./Game avg. and lead then into the playoffs. They were 3-13 a year ago. Harbaugh couldn't have done this without Cameron as his OC. Flame me all you want but I compare Cameron as good an OC as Gibbs was in his day. As a coach 1 year doesn't warrant him proving anything and getting fired.

jets won't give cowher full power...its a no go

Laugh all you want. I hope one of those teams that fired their coaches hires him (preferably Cleveland) Maybe then you'll become a believer. Name me a coach that was able get the production out of a rookie QB (before you say Matt Ryan, Flacco was an unknown player) got his underachiever WR (Clayton) and old man (Mason) a beat up almost washed RB (Maghee) a rookie RB (Rice) a backup (McLain) and a rebuilt OL to average like 30pts./Game avg. and lead then into the playoffs. They were 3-13 a year ago. Harbaugh couldn't have done this without Cameron as his OC. Flame me all you want but I compare Cameron as good an OC as Gibbs was in his day. As a coach 1 year doesn't warrant him proving anything and getting fired.

There are plenty of good OC's that simply aren't good HC's. Cameron is one of them. I'd be surprised if he even gets an interview for a HC job this offseason.

I wasn't "flaming" you, lighten up. I just thought it was funny that you're not impressed with Cowher "only" winning 1 SB while Cameron only has 1 career win as HC.

Like the NFL network said....the best possible cenario is going to the Lions. I know, I know they suck every year but you can't do worse then 0-16 so even if you won one game you turned the team around. lol. Personell wise I would probably pick the Jets. As much as everyone says Cowher has a friend in Cleveland I doubt he would go to a rival steel team town of Pittsburg only cause he doesn't want to piss of Pitt nation.

Besides he flat out turned down the Browns owner.

Aaron (DC): Happy New Year Matt! Do you think that Dan Snyder will ever fire Vinny Cerrato? The Redskins need a legitimate GM to turn this organization around.

Matt Mosley: (12:28 PM ET ) These men have taken a solemn vow to each other.