30gut
12-31-2008, 02:18 PM
His numbers show he's the lesser QB because he has lesser numbers than Cassell
What?
Cassel only managed to put up slightly better numbers then Campbell yet Cassel was handed the keys to one of, if not the most potent passing attacks NFL history.
Follow me here.
If Jason can put up nearly the same numbers with a far less talented supporting cast then Cassel.
Doesn't it makes sense that Jason would do better with Cassel's supporting cast?
:food-smil
People crack me up with this silly system talk. Brady is a great QB, end of discussion. There are not that many QB's in the NFL that can sit back in the pocket and beat you by just throwing it 40-50 times a game. He is one of the very few that can do it. He can just sit back in the pocket and pick a defense apart. The guy won 3 SB's with Deion Brach, Troy Brown and David Givens as his WR's. Then when he gets Moss and Welker and puts up numbers that may never be broken. Need I say more??
Yeah I agree. He was getting it done and winning SB's with a bunch of no-name WRs.
Not sure about Cassell but JC probably led the NFL in passes that traveled 10 yards or less. He should complete 65% to 70% IMO.
You don't think Cassell threw a ton of short passes to Welker??
30gut
12-31-2008, 02:23 PM
Cassel has been in the league 4 years and got to watch the same exact offense all those years. JC has watched 3 different offenses in his time in the league. It's not a fair comparison is all i am saying. Actually Matt Ryan's season makes JC look bad because he just got in the league and played well imediately.
Ryan had a great season. But, again its so difficult to compare QB unless they are in the exact same circumstanes. Bring Ryan here and put Jason there. I think you would see the Jason we saw in the first half of the season. The Campbell that Jaws was considering for league MVP.
Look at Chad Pennington its all about situation.
GMScud
12-31-2008, 02:25 PM
You don't think Cassell threw a ton of short passes to Welker??
109 to be exact. They don't call Wes Welker "The Slot Machine" for nothing.
skinsfan69
12-31-2008, 02:28 PM
You don't think Cassell threw a ton of short passes to Welker??
I do think he threw a lot of short stuff. I just didn't see enough of their games to make a judgement on him. But the games I did see he looked pretty damn good for a guy that hadn't started a game since high school. He wasn't as razor sharp as Brady but the dude hasn't played so I think with time he can be a damn good starter. If you ask me he's just as good as JC.
GMScud
12-31-2008, 02:36 PM
I do think he threw a lot of short stuff. I just didn't see enough of their games to make a judgement on him. But the games I did see he looked pretty damn good for a guy that hadn't started a game since high school. He wasn't as razor sharp as Brady but the dude hasn't played so I think with time he can be a damn good starter. If you ask me he's just as good as JC.
Or he could be the Derek Anderson of 2008. The jury is still out IMO, but thus far Cassell looks very promising. Reagrdless, he's gonna get paid big time.
44ever
12-31-2008, 02:43 PM
The only thing this proves is Cassell has what it takes to play in a working system. JC has not had the oportunity to play in such as a Skin. Bring Cassell here and I doubt he could do any better than JC.
In fact it's sad in a way that JC has had to play on our team. I believe we thus far have held back greatness. Not that I want to see him go.
The Goat
12-31-2008, 02:45 PM
Cassell is a good QB working in a superior system. Bringing him to Washington won't really help us IMO. Different system and less talent for him to work with - not a great scenario.
Besides, JC is becoming the team leader. I was considering starting a thread on this but i'll just mention here that CP effectively removed himself as the team leader w/ his antics this season. This is just the way I see it. Meanwhile JC took a beating all season (sacked 38 times) and continued to stand tall in the pocket. He started moving the ball whether there was a downfield option, using his legs. And he's showing more personality/leadership now than ever. By opening day '09 JC is the unquestionable leader of this team.
No Joke.
he;s only gonna get better