Room for disappointment in FA?

Even if we lost Evans, which I'm not sure we have yet, I would say AH is an improvement over Evans. I would say gaining about 8 years youth at LG is an improvement. If our 3rd rounder is good enough to start, how would that not be an improvement? I disagree Tee. I think we've improved.

What I'm basically saying is that we went for quality in this year's free agency and we definitely got it.

Our 2008 team needed quantity because the lack of depth really killed us down the stretch on both sides of the ball...Geisinger was blocking Terrell Suggs at one point for God's sakes :)

IMO we still haven't addressed the quantity that was needed from last year's team.

What I'm basically saying is that we went for quality in this year's free agency and we definitely got it.

Our 2008 team needed quantity because the lack of depth really killed us down the stretch on both sides of the ball...Geisinger was blocking Terrell Suggs at one point for God's sakes :)

IMO we still haven't addressed the quantity that was needed from last year's team.

I agree that we still have some holes to fill. I didn't mean to imply we didn't. :) I'm hoping we get some help in the draft. T.O.Killa brought Kevin Burnett back up in the 2009 FA's thread. If we have the money we should check this guy out. He could possibly fill the OLB need at a reasonable price.

The Dockery signing is arguably bigger than the AH signing. Kendall was barely holding on at LG and to pick up Dock...I just cant explain how important I think that is. I was initially down on the AH pick up because we had more pressing needs along the O-line but with Dock in the mix Im ecstatic with the FO's moves so far.

So no...i dont think their is room for disappointment this year in FA.

I am very happy (in fact I probably qualify as a head over heals guy). I think adding a HIGH quality DT, we increased our depth because our starters Golston and Montgomery now add to the rotation. On the offensive line, I would have been disappointed but the Lions/Bills incompetence and our FO's willingness to get Dock gives meaning to our draft, because now we know our left side is a lot more solid, we can focus on a center/rg/ot. and again, our starters last year become our depth, not bad. Not really thrilled with Hall but Rodgers/Hall/Landry ought to be a heck of a starting defensive backfield.

If we upgrade our special teams (ie punter) and the kid from Canada who I don't remember can take over punt returns. I would think there would be no solid reason to be disappointed in the offseason.

Of Course there is always the regular season available for disappointments to shine through. For now I continue to give our FO a solid :cheers:

I think we can bring washington back at close to the vet minimum and the stay put at 13 and draft the best OT available. in the 3rd round we can probably pick up a starting quality LB since this draft is ridiculously deep at LB. id then use our 5th and 6th round picks on a running back and offensive lineman.

Ok...Now you're just F****ing with me. :screama:

I am very happy (in fact I probably qualify as a head over heals guy). I think adding a HIGH quality DT, we increased our depth because our starters Golston and Montgomery now add to the rotation. On the offensive line, I would have been disappointed but the Lions/Bills incompetence and our FO's willingness to get Dock gives meaning to our draft, because now we know our left side is a lot more solid, we can focus on a center/rg/ot. and again, our starters last year become our depth, not bad. Not really thrilled with Hall but Rodgers/Hall/Landry ought to be a heck of a starting defensive backfield.

If we upgrade our special teams (ie punter) and the kid from Canada who I don't remember can take over punt returns. I would think there would be no solid reason to be disappointed in the offseason.

Of Course there is always the regular season available for disappointments to shine through. For now I continue to give our FO a solid :cheers:

I probably demand too much of my Redskins. I have high expectations for them so I'd like to see all the bases covered before going into a competitive NFL season.

By not taking care of the one major deficiency of our entire team, our lack of depth, they are continuing to gamble with our team's success. My expectation going into a season is that we should have a chance for success no matter the impediment, our opponent, the weather, or the team's overall health.


The success you think we'll have is contingent upon the health of a one or two players. Injuries are far too common in the NFL to rest your team's success on the health of one or two players.

I probably demand too much of my Redskins. I have high expectations for them so I'd like to see all the bases covered before going into a competitive NFL season.

By not taking care of the one major deficiency of our entire team, our lack of depth, they are continuing to gamble with our team's success. My expectation going into a season is that we should have a chance for success no matter the impediment, our opponent, the weather, or the team's overall health.


The success you think we'll have is contingent upon the health of a one or two players. Injuries are far too common in the NFL to rest your team's success on the health of one or two players.
My argument is that we took care of depth by adding quality at the top. What one or two players? In a different thread it was pointed out that our DLine starters rotated regularly.
Our depth weakness on the Oline was not fully addressed and we did get Extremely lucky with Dock, but we added/solidified the left for next several years. And in the draft, and our younger veterans, we have to see them step up.
Finally, back to your comment that our success is dependent on one or two players, I disagree, but even so, nearly every team has one or two players that make or break them and the teams whose lines have been extremely healthy(giants oline) haven't tested their backups.

Come the regular season, I will be screaming at the screen and praying our backups when called upon meet the need. But right now, I am enjoying the Skins offseason, and thankful that the our front office makes every attempt to field a SB worthy team, with the Highest quality players available.

My argument is that we took care of depth by adding quality at the top. What one or two players? In a different thread it was pointed out that our DLine starters rotated regularly.
Our depth weakness on the Oline was not fully addressed and we did get Extremely lucky with Dock, but we added/solidified the left for next several years. And in the draft, and our younger veterans, we have to see them step up.
Finally, back to your comment that our success is dependent on one or two players, I disagree, but even so, nearly every team has one or two players that make or break them and the teams whose lines have been extremely healthy(giants oline) haven't tested their backups.

Come the regular season, I will be screaming at the screen and praying our backups when called upon meet the need. But right now, I am enjoying the Skins offseason, and thankful that the our front office makes every attempt to field a SB worthy team, with the Highest quality players available.

The Giants, arguably, had their best defensive player, Osi Umenyiora go down in preseason '08. They still went 12-4 and won the NFL's toughest division with a great defense. They anticipated injuries and had ample depth to recover from losing him.

If we lose our best defensive player, hopefully Haynesworth if you just paid him $46M guaranteed, then our defensive line would look pedestrian. Our solution would be to call Jason Taylor's fatter brother and see if we could trade a 2nd or 3rd for him.


The fact is that competitively built NFL teams do not build depth as shallow as ours. Haynesworth's exceptional ability at DT does not provide additional depth beyond his roster spot.

The Giants, arguably, had their best defensive player, Osi Umenyiora go down in preseason '08. They still went 12-4 and won the NFL's toughest division with great defense. They anticipated injuries and had ample depth to recover from losing him.

If we lose our best defensive player, hopefully Haynesworth if you just paid him $46M guaranteed, then our defensive line would look pedestrian. Our solution would be to call Jason Taylor's fatter brother and see if we could trade a 2nd or 3rd for him.


The fact is that competitively built NFL teams do not build depth as shallow as ours. Haynesworth's exceptional ability at DT does not provide additional depth beyond his roster spot.

We had the 4th rank defense without Haynesworth.

We both want the Skins to succeed! If you want to be disappointed that's fine and I understand the point you are making.

I simply choose to enjoy the offseason moves, and be excited for the quality players brought in.

We had the 4th rank defense without Haynesworth.

We both want the Skins to succeed! If you want to be disappointed that's fine and I understand the point you are making.

I simply choose to enjoy the offseason moves, and be excited for the quality players brought in.

Well if they say they have Kool-Aid available at the offseason parade, just don't drink it. :)