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SmootSmack 09-19-2004, 07:22 PM I think it was Sunra who said we need to mix it up and he's right. Let's get Betts more involved. I liked what we did early with Sellers and Cooley. Even last week when we came out passing, it was quick, short passes that were essentially runs. Some may see it as boring football but what it does is draw in the defense and open things up for some man on man coverage deep.
As for Ramsey, I'm concerned that he simply isn't improving at all on the intangibles-having pocket presence, not forcing throws, being on the same page as his receivers on routes, not telegraphing passes. I think the gunslinger mentality he's got is hurting his progress.
The defense was on point and our return game was much improved this week. One game is no reason to panic
SUNRA 09-19-2004, 07:25 PM What Gardner does is back himself into a corner. He makes the hard catches and can't make the easy ones.
1. We must activate McCants. Hell he had the most TD's last year and he's not even on the active list. Please.
2. Ledell Betts must get more reps. Where's Rock Cartwright? We could have used him today.
3. We have to approach these kind of games with great preparation. I think some of playcalling was not effective against this defense. Let's throw some screen passes.
4.Sean Taylor can not rome around without instruction. He looked confused when the Giants called an audible. Let's focus man!
5.Don't even think about playing like this against the Cowboys.
Hail to the Redskins 09-19-2004, 07:29 PM The Carter catch on the sidelines... he definitely only had one foot in... however, it was with 1:55 left in the 2nd QTR, a booth challenge... the G-Women got to the line quick and the play wasn't brought back. That was a big play too.
No matter what anyone says... I said all offseason we should trade Gardner for something... anything... It's a shame the Dolphins didn't bite on the Gardner-Betts for Ogunleye bait, because really... that WOULD have made us a better football TEAM.
Gardner isn't horrible, but he sure as hell ins't in the same area code as Art Monk, the man who's job he fills in this system. Thrash or McCants or Taylor can drop 3-4 balls for every great catch, just like 'ol 50/50... and how badly do we need just ONE, I mean just ONE defensive lineman who can pressure the QB on his own??
Finally, Ramsey is the WORST QB to have playing for your favorite team... he flashes SOOO much potential one play... and then makes the biggest bonehead play ever on the next... he reminds me of an ex of mine... but I won't get into that... ;)
redwagonskins 09-19-2004, 07:30 PM Cowpokes beat the Browns and didn't look too bad. We've got to step things up and not drop too many division games. I'm sure that this team is going to be really strong at the end of the season, however, my hope is that we can pull off enough wins early to make it count. Losing to the gints is no way to start. The fact of the matter is they were not good. 7 turnovers and only a six point loss show that we beat ourselves. I'm just curious what player is going to step up as a team leader. Obviously Lavar is doing it for the D so who on offense is going to get them fired up and focused? Gibbs can coach his heart out but the players need to execute.
Gardner and Ramsey are the same kind of player right now, very talented but just can't live up to their potential. I'm giving more benefit of the doubt to Ramsey right now though, Rod has too much experience under his belt to still be making so many mental errors. His drops are getting ridiculous.
monk81 09-19-2004, 07:41 PM Cowpokes beat the Browns and didn't look too bad. We've got to step things up and not drop too many division games. I'm sure that this team is going to be really strong at the end of the season, however, my hope is that we can pull off enough wins early to make it count. Losing to the gints is no way to start. The fact of the matter is they were not good. 7 turnovers and only a six point loss show that we beat ourselves. I'm just curious what player is going to step up as a team leader. Obviously Lavar is doing it for the D so who on offense is going to get them fired up and focused? Gibbs can coach his heart out but the players need to execute.
Yes, the Cowboys did look pretty good. Their defense was aggressive and pressured Garcia...BUT Vinny was also pressured and had 3 turnovers......
Overall Parcells had them fully recovered from their shalacking last week by the Vikings....We can't make stupid mistakes (penalties, dropped passes, fumbles) against the Cowboys ..........
skins009 09-19-2004, 07:44 PM I disagree that Portis does not fit our scheme, if you watch the first drive he was killing the giants. Then tim lewis said enough with this, were stacking the box. What we need to do then was chalange them wit deep balls, and Brunnel can't throw the deep ball. I don't understand our offense right now, with all the short passes. Lets throw the ball downfield. Gibbs is going to conservative. The other this I dont' get is where is the slant route in our offense? Its probably the best route in football and i have not seen it run once yet. Does anybody remeber from Gibbs first term if they used the slant route at all?
SUNRA 09-19-2004, 07:45 PM Gardner's status will be evaluated after this game. The films don't exaggerate. He's big, but not an intimidating receiver like TO. He's not even a 2# wideout. Man I'm going on a campaign to get McCants in the next game. We need him. One point to make about our offense. It was great that Portis scored on a pass. But that's Gardner's job to catch a ball that deep in the endzone. Why isn't he stepping up and asking for a Randy Moss type of over the top play?
offiss 09-19-2004, 07:49 PM Gardner and Ramsey are the same kind of player right now, very talented but just can't live up to their potential. I'm giving more benefit of the doubt to Ramsey right now though, Rod has too much experience under his belt to still be making so many mental errors. His drops are getting ridiculous.
Ramsey has to be givin an opportunity to get comfortable, all the great's throw INT's early in their career's, why? Because they are play maker's, and until their knowledge and comfort level reaches their competitive nature, that will happen. In Ramsey's defense, 1 INT looked to be Cole's not peeling off the defender, that can happen to the best of them, the second he shouldn't even been in that position, Gardner burned everyone with the drop on the goal line, to bad Rod you'll never see an easier TD again, the last was defiently bone headed, but it did look like it slipped off his hand, with the amount of drop's no wonder Ramsey feel's the need to try and force a big play.
I look to see McCant's taking over for gardner any time now, Gibb's in his defense hasen't been able to follow Gardner's career like the rest of us, this game should pretty much indoctrinate him.
SUNRA 09-19-2004, 07:52 PM I disagree that Portis does not fit our scheme, if you watch the first drive he was killing the giants. Then tim lewis said enough with this, were stacking the box. What we need to do then was chalange them wit deep balls, and Brunnel can't throw the deep ball. I don't understand our offense right now, with all the short passes. Lets throw the ball downfield. Gibbs is going to conservative. The other this I dont' get is where is the slant route in our offense? Its probably the best route in football and i have not seen it run once yet. Does anybody remeber from Gibbs first term if they used the slant route at all?
I don't recall Gibbs using the slant play. He normally had his QB throw down field because they could. This biggest challenge for him is get Brunell enought protection and throw the ball earlier to lead the receiver down the field. The slant route doesn't work when you have receivers dropping as many balls as we did today. I like the screen pass where you throw to either side and let the receiver match up against a CB man to man.
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