I don't know one way or the other, but when CP was unhappy & called Zorn a "genius" the next thing we hear was that CP met w/Snyder, then Snyder & Zorn talked.
At the least, Snyder's coddling of Portis puts Zorn in an awkward position. It sounded like Zorn was unhappy w/CP, but then had to retract some of his statements about him missing practice after CP mouthed off on J. Thompson's show & then went to DS.
Snyder might not "meddle" the way some have accused him, but he definitely wants to market his team a certain way, as that is his business expertise. Seems that he's given Portis disproportionate of $ & personal leeway in the process.
Does that mean he's telling Zorn to give CP 25 carries & Betts only a few each game? I don't know, but I bet DS loved the sound of hearing "the NFL's leading rusher, Clinton Portis" when the team was on a roll in the first half of 08.
I'm betting he probably liked the sound of 6-2 better
53Fan
04-14-2009, 10:28 AM
I agree with Sammy and Freddy. From a business side, his relationship with Portis is detrimental. Everyone knows that Portis is his "guy" including Portis. And that's where problems with authority come in to play.
Ruhskins
04-14-2009, 10:29 AM
When is the draft again?
On a related note, Snyder likes football and to party at the Playboy mansion. Say what you say about the guy, he's alright with me (I'd be doing the same thing if I had his money).
SmootSmack
04-14-2009, 11:04 AM
Darrell Green, Bruce Smith, and Clinton Portis are all Hall of Fame (or potential HoF) players and all have taken generous advantage of their open door policy with Snyder.
But this happens all over the league really.
firstdown
04-14-2009, 01:30 PM
How does anyone know why either DS or CP where at the party. Just maybe they both know the same person who invited them and they just happen to be hanging out. It seem everyone here assums that DS invited CP to go with him which might not even be the case. Even if it is the case big deal and lucky Portis.
gibbsisgod
04-14-2009, 01:39 PM
DS needs to have good relationships with his players, but has to keep them at "arm's length". It's one thing to have dinner with a player and his family, it's another to be spotted at a Playboy party "with" a player. DS needs to grow up, put on his big-boy pants and realize his actions speak volumes to the coaching staff and players. This type of behavior IMO enables Portis and his rants in the media.
On the one hand DS can talk about how bad he wants a SB trophy, but he's unwilling to make all the sacrifices necessary to get one; including checking his ego, stop the stupid "stargazing", and stop undermining the FO and coaching staff. Unacceptable.
DS needs to get a keyring or something and keep it with him at all times with a "WWJG" on it. Whenever he's about to do something stupid he needs to pull it out and think...What Would Joe Gibbs do? Gibbs wouldn't be at a Playboy party and he certainly wouldn't be there with a player.
How are these different? You make it sound as if they were out on a date.
Slingin Sammy 33
04-14-2009, 02:02 PM
How are these different? You make it sound as if they were out on a date.
Vast difference. My wife and I have had dinner with the CEO of my company. However I've never attended a Playboy party or gone to a strip club with my CEO. Having dinner with a player can still be seen as a semi-business setting, when you move into the other environment you're letting the player closer and on a more personal level than IMO any player should be with an owner.
GMScud
04-14-2009, 02:49 PM
It's really no secret Clinton is Snyder's boy. Clinton basically does what he wants, and it's also not a secret that it's not popular with a lot of players. He's a diva. A huge ego. But he's not a bad dude and he's a great player. It's not like he's a TO or an Ocho Cinco. Plus he never gets in any off field trouble. So you deal with it I guess.
SmootSmack
04-14-2009, 02:54 PM
Where is all this hanging out at the Playboy Mansion, with strippers, etc. talk coming from? They were at a steakhouse. Plus it doesn't specify that he was even with Hefner. Just that they were both at the same place.
GMScud
04-14-2009, 02:57 PM
Where is all this hanging out at the Playboy Mansion, with strippers, etc. talk coming from? They were at a steakhouse. Plus it doesn't specify that he was even with Hefner. Just that they were both at the same place.
Ooops. I wasn't paying attention.
Maybe Mredskins was right about my reading comprehension. :)
Edited my post.