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Pocket$ $traight 04-26-2009, 08:41 PM This FO is an embarrassment.
See I don't blame Vinny because he is a puppet. He is protecting his job.
It is almost like Snyder wants Campbell to fail. They should have traded the last 4 picks this year for picks next year.
The thing is that they will probably hit with Orakpo and the corner and then claim how successful the draft was.
Who the f--- is Cody Glenn?
GMScud 04-26-2009, 08:42 PM See I don't blame Vinny because he is a puppet. He is protecting his job.
It is almost like Snyder wants Campbell to fail. They should have traded the last 4 picks this year for picks next year.
The thing is that they will probably hit with Orakpo and the corner and then claim how successful the draft was.
Who the f--- is Cody Glenn?
Well, if you get two quality starters out of a draft, it was probably pretty successful, especially without a 2nd rounder.
GMScud 04-26-2009, 08:43 PM You gotta wonder why so many teams, not just us, passed on OL like Duke Robinson. Orakpo and Barnes are great picks. Glenn is borderline. Henson and Williams I don't get really. Mitchell could be a steal, but I hope not because more than likely it would mean that he got playing time because Kelly couldn't stay healthy.
I'll give it a C, but I'm not one to grade off-seasons based only on draft.
Robinson's performance in the Natn'l Championship against a fast SEC defense was downright pathetic. He got blown by multiple times, drew 3 or 4 penalties, and even got benched for a few series. It hurt him significantly I think.
But this thread isn't asking you to grade the off-season.
Defensewins 04-26-2009, 08:51 PM You gotta wonder why so many teams, not just us, passed on OL like Duke Robinson. Orakpo and Barnes are great picks. Glenn is borderline. Henson and Williams I don't get really. Mitchell could be a steal, but I hope not because more than likely it would mean that he got playing time because Kelly couldn't stay healthy.
I'll give it a C, but I'm not one to grade off-seasons based only on draft.
HOF Russ Grimm was not taken until the 3rd round. For some strange reason college OG's drop in value because the assumption is they are as good as an OT. It is a bad assumption. I think some of these great OG that were picked later in this draft will end up being better NFL OL than some of the OT that were taken higher.
Trample the Elderly 04-26-2009, 08:52 PM 1- Brian Orakpo (DE) B+ I would've tried to trade down to get Mack and Eben Britton, but this has to be the best pick out our entire draft. If no one would've traded I would've taken Oher.
3- Kevin Barnes (CB) F- We drafted a CB last year (Tryon), we signed Hall, and we've Smoot, Westbrook, and Rogers already.
5- Cody Glenn (OLB) C+ Ok, we needed an OLB but I would've used the third to get a better OLB, not to mention all of the Ts right there for the picking. Jamon Meredith or Duke Robinson would've made more sense.
6- Robert Henson (OLB) F- Overkill.
7- Eddie Williams (TE/FB) D- So is he going to be a FB or a TE? Don't we already have Cooley, Davis and Yoder? Sellers is there? If we wanted a true FB than why not sign one. I would've taken Rashad Jennings.
7- Marko Mitchell (WR) F-- No need to explain this grade.
If they did they're homework on this draft I can't see it, at least right now. Week eight will prove me right.
Defensewins 04-26-2009, 08:53 PM Robinson's performance in the Natn'l Championship against a fast SEC defense was downright pathetic. He got blown by multiple times, drew 3 or 4 penalties, and even got benched for a few series. It hurt him significantly I think.
But this thread isn't asking you to grade the off-season.
That was one game. Robinson was four starter and started as a true freshman at LT. All of this in the SEC. So what did Cody Glenn do that made him a better prospect than Robinson? Gleen started one year at a not so good Nebraska team? Don't get it. No logic there.
Pocket$ $traight 04-26-2009, 08:54 PM Well, if you get two quality starters out of a draft, it was probably pretty successful, especially without a 2nd rounder.
That is a pretty low expectation level. When the Giants won it they nailed something like 7 picks.
GMScud 04-26-2009, 08:56 PM That was one game. Robinson was four starter and started as a true freshman at LT. All of this in the SEC. So what did Cody Glenn do that made him a better prospect than Robinson?
1st of all, Duke Robinson played for Oklahoma. Last time I checked that's in the Big 12.
2nd, I never said Cody Glenn was a better prospect. In fact, I would have been much happier with Duke than Glenn. I'm just pointing out something that probably hurt his stock.
If you don't think one game can make a guy plummet in the draft, see our very own Colt Brennan. After what Georgia did to Hawaii in that BCS game, Brennan fell far and fast. Granted it was mostly the O-line's fault, just saying.
Trample the Elderly 04-26-2009, 08:58 PM 1st of all, Duke Robinson played for Oklahoma. Last time I checked that's in the Big 12.
2nd, I never said Cody Glenn was a better prospect. In fact, I would have been much happier with Duke than Glenn. I'm just pointing out something that probably hurt his stock.
If you don't think one game can make a guy plummet in the draft, see our very own Colt Brennan. After what Georgia did to Hawaii in that BCS game, Brennan fell far and fast. Granted it was mostly the O-line's fault, just saying.
Duke Robinson in the 5th would've been a steal.
GMScud 04-26-2009, 08:59 PM That is a pretty low expectation level. When the Giants won it they nailed something like 7 picks.
I said quality starters. That Giants team got contributions from 7 or 8 guys, not 7 starters. Also, that was a serious exception (which was why it was talked about so much), not the norm for a "good" draft.
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