Indefinite detentions under Obama???

FD - Didn't a CIA operative just say that waterboarding gave us absolutely no useful information behind a screen to Congress? Honestly, I'm not really against torture. But I also realize it is an action that can also be taken against our soldiers. I guess my biggest issue is that we have no evidence on the guys we're doing this to, instead we THINK they're connected. Would you be fine being abducted and tortured because they THOUGHT you may be an Anti-American terrorist? No, you'd be screaming for a lawyer and proof.

All I'm asking is torture people you know have information.
No I have heard just the opposite and people are calling for the white house to release those memos. Waderboarding was only used on two or three people and one of the guys was one of the master minds behind 9/11.

If you don't feel like the sensation of drowning is torture, then I feel you're severely mistaken. Just because there's no 'physical' pain doesn't mean that the pain is still great. I couldn't think of anything worse than sleep deprivation myself. The fact is, most of the people in gitmo probably aren't all that bad. If they were so radical and terrible, wouldn't we be able to have evidence to charge them? I feel like everyone deserves their day in court.
Hey Deasal , how are you . I agree with you that we should not treat EVERY guy we pick up on a battllefield the same , Im sure more than a few just joined the fight . As far as sleep deprivation , loud music ect. I would imagine that many are not subjected to that for long if they will not talk . As for waterboarding , it is used < as I was told > , only on " high level " targets , whom we believe have info on terror attacks or planning of attacks , ect . I do not want us to just beat the hell out of any fighter after he is detained , but if we capture a top Al Queda member , i just hope we do what ever we have to to save lives . As long as the trial is military < no evidence is released to the public or lawyers > , then Im fine .

All is fair in Love and War.

All is fair in Love and War.

Including suicide bombings?

Including suicide bombings?

That's right. They're playing hardball and you guys are worried about their stinking rights? :doh:

Americans are just as capable of playing hardball. Flying on a fire-bombing mission into a wall of anti-aircraft fire, over a fully industrialized nation, is nothing short of suicide.

LOL...good one. We've done it before, and we can do it again because we've done it before. To infinity and beyond!

Of course it doesn't alter the moral correctness of waterboarding. It only demonstrates the selective nature of your outrage. How convenient that you would come to Jesus during a Republican admininistration. Obama's recent backtracking leaves you in the position of having to un-come to Jesus visa vis national security (assuming you are loyal to The Baraq). I suspect he's trying to shake you weirdie beards loose. He's trying to seem a little more mainstreamish.

Of course it doesn't alter the moral correctness of waterboarding. It only demonstrates the selective nature of your outrage. How convenient that you would come to Jesus during a Republican admininistration. Obama's recent backtracking leaves you in the position of having to un-come to Jesus visa vis national security (assuming you are loyal to The Baraq). I suspect he's trying to shake you weirdie beards loose. He's trying to seem a little more mainstreamish.
I give him credit for realizing that it is not as easy as people think to deal with some of these people so now he has changed his mind based on what he has learned over the past few months. The problem with most of these paople is we caught them while fighting us but we have no concrete eveidence other then them shooting at us that they are terrorist. So in court it gets tough to get a conviction under our courts in the US. Obama now see's these issues and does not want to risk letting them back out just to fight them again. In most wars we hold them until its over but its much different in this case.