12thMan
11-08-2009, 11:22 AM
Ummm, if you look at any poll most Americans are against goverment run Health Care. I'm guess if passed this bill will coat me about $1 per page per year in either new taxes or inceased HC cost. I'll also bet that before it ever goes into effect the cost projections will increase to almost double. I sad part is none of these guys have even read to over 2000 pages in this bill and if they say they did I say they lie.
Care to site those polls?
firstdown
11-08-2009, 11:26 AM
step one passes. on the way to better care for all
How can people look at all the failing goverment programs and think that the most complicated one passed will some how get it right. Heck, all they had to do with SS was to cllect the money put it away and when you reach 65 then start paying it back and they Fucked that up to the tune that its going broke. The only good that will come from this bill is that all the libs will have to also live with this poor bill passed by a President that when history looks back will be worse then Bush 2.
dmek25
11-08-2009, 11:41 AM
Ummm, are against govermeif you look at any poll most Americans nt run Health Care. I'm guess if passed this bill will coat me about $1 per page per year in either new taxes or inceased HC cost. I'll also bet that before it ever goes into effect the cost projections will increase to almost double. I sad part is none of these guys have even read to over 2000 pages in this bill and if they say they did I say they lie.
all the people i know are for this. any links?( other then one from fox)
GMScud
11-08-2009, 11:42 AM
step one passes. on the way to better care for all
Better care for all?? Lol.
dmek25
11-08-2009, 11:46 AM
How can people look at all the failing goverment programs and think that the most complicated one passed will some how get it right. Heck, all they had to do with SS was to cllect the money put it away and when you reach 65 then start paying it back and they Fucked that up to the tune that its going broke. The only good that will come from this bill is that all the libs will have to also live with this poor bill passed by a President that when history looks back will be worse then Bush 2.
check your history. the GOP was also against medicare. that runs fine. what about the post office? i can mail a letter from Pa., and have in Cal. 3 days later for .50. sounds like a pretty good deal to me. does SS still pay out? last time i checked, it still works. what Gov't programs don't work? other then the no child left behind?
12thMan
11-08-2009, 11:50 AM
Hey I wonder if drinking will now be a pre-existing condition?
dmek25
11-08-2009, 11:52 AM
How can people look at all the failing goverment programs and think that the most complicated one passed will some how get it right. Heck, all they had to do with SS was to cllect the money put it away and when you reach 65 then start paying it back and they Fucked that up to the tune that its going broke. The only good that will come from this bill is that all the libs will have to also live with this poor bill passed by a President that when history looks back will be worse then Bush 2.
he has a long way to go before he catches up with that 8 year train wreck
dmek25
11-08-2009, 11:54 AM
Overall, given what you know about them, do you support or oppose the proposed changes
to the health care system being developed by Congress and the Obama Administration?
51% Favor, 49% Oppose (chart)
Do you favor or oppose having a "public option" which would allow individuals to purchase
health insurance coverage from the government?
45% Favor, 31% Oppose
taken from pollster.com
What Firstdown alludes to is basically correct.
IF the Fed could be counted on to run....a program lean, mean and efficient, many more would be on the band wagon. The performance of our Govt has become comical in such situations.
The waste and ClusterF...kism will undoubtedly be cataclysmic, yet cloaked in cleverly and luxuriously Spin Doctored success.
Our elected representatives have long since ceased to represent us by repeatedly failing to choose what is in the best interest of the American people.
**What is promised by the Fed is rarely what is recieved........
Schneed10
11-08-2009, 12:18 PM
check your history. the GOP was also against medicare. that runs fine. what about the post office? i can mail a letter from Pa., and have in Cal. 3 days later for .50. sounds like a pretty good deal to me. does SS still pay out? last time i checked, it still works. what Gov't programs don't work? other then the no child left behind?
Medicare runs fine? lol
Your credibility has now taken two stiff shots to the jaw and is on the ropes.