Hate to say it but Coaching lost this game

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MTK
09-28-2004, 01:05 AM
I agree about 90-95% with that cuz the refs really pulled a choke job tonight, but that was a really badly called goalline series from gibbs and company.
I agree, but the refs took points off our board tonight and put them on the cowboys, can't get much worse than that if you ask me.

SUNRA
09-28-2004, 01:08 AM
this one is on the refs

I'm not ready to put it all on the refs just yet. The defense gave up several big 3rd down plays which continued Dallas's drive.

MTK
09-28-2004, 01:11 AM
take that first TD off the board and it's a Skins 'W', pretty simple

SUNRA
09-28-2004, 01:14 AM
take that first TD off the board and it's a Skins 'W', pretty simple

Yeah, but that's a big if. We had enough time to put points on the board. It was poor time management that lost this game.

skinsfanthru&thru
09-28-2004, 01:14 AM
I agree, but the refs took points off our board tonight and put them on the cowboys, can't get much worse than that if you ask me.

we're in full agreement on that and whats makes it worse is that the refs f-ed it up twice on that drive with what was a fumble and the bs pass interference. but as frustrating as all this is, especially with it resulting in a loss to dallas, this team made huge improvements from the last 2 weeks. The offense preformed really well( r. brown excluded ) against one of the better defenses in the league. hopefully in the next week or 2 we'll see more sweeps and playactions(which I don't remember seeing many of yet this year) as well as a couple players getting healthy and rejoining the defense.

and just wondering, but why does the league even bother apologizing for mistakes made by officiating crews? cuz the only useful purpose I can think of for them is to use the paper its typed on as toilet paper or as Jim Mora would say they mean "diddily poo."

sportscurmudgeon
09-28-2004, 01:17 AM
Matty:

The officiating tonight was terrible. But it was terrible both ways.

In the first half Skins' scoring drive, they missed the incomplete pass to Portis AND on the same play they missed that he was down by contact. That was a third down play in Skins territory that would have caused a punt if they got it right.

Gardner's final catch of the game was offensive pass interference. Not called.

The "false start" on Flozell Adams in the final Cowboys possession was not a false start.

The officials did not cover themselves in glory tonight but five sacks had as much to do with the loss tonight as anything else.

Also, after Bowen got burned for a TD by the Giants, we had a whole bunch of folks here calling for his benching so we could see Sean Taylor and all that he would do. Well, you saw Taylor tonight and he was just as late as Bowen was on the TD pass to Terry Glenn. I'm waiting to hear how he should be benched immediately...

When you have the ball first and goal at the one yard line and you don't gain an inch, I'd say there was some kind of problem there that had not a whole lot to do with the officials. Made a TD from the one yard line instead of a field goal and you have a very different dynamic in the 4th quarter.

MTK
09-28-2004, 01:18 AM
bah it doesn't make up for the god-awful call on Harris. That call was total and utter garbage.

dragontat7169
09-28-2004, 01:32 AM
Matty:

In the first half Skins' scoring drive, they missed the incomplete pass to Portis AND on the same play they missed that he was down by contact. That was a third down play in Skins territory that would have caused a punt if they got it right.


I hate to disappoint you on this..but IT was a CATCH! and if you remember correctly, they had already completed one 4th down conversion on that drive and I am pretty sure they would have done it again. It would have been 4th and 1 or 2 where he was downed at. Yes, the refs missed that call, but it was still conceiveable that they would have gone for it on 4th down (not punted), got the first down and still scored. So that call didn't really affect anything except a bunch of maybe's. And as far as the Offensive PI on the last play of the game, what did that affect? Calling that made no difference in the outcome of the game, all it did was pad the stats a little.

Gmanc711
09-28-2004, 07:02 AM
Yeah thats a difference of 2 yards on their " bad call " that hurt dallas to 57 yards yards on their FIRST bad call that killed us.

BIGREDSKINFAN63
09-28-2004, 07:19 AM
well i did'nt see poor coaching,i never have from a joe gibbs coached team.i thought it took the skins o awhile to get started and it is tough to beat anybody when you have 11 guys on the field and they have 11 + the refs on the field.ray charles,stevie wonder,ronnie milsap,and any other blind man could have called that game better than those"jackass zebras"did last night.that was the worst officiating i have ever seen at any game at any level.the ref staff assured themselves that they will not work at the superbowl this year unless they park cars or clean up the bathrooms.

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