House advances Cap & Trade bill

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firstdown
06-26-2009, 04:23 PM
The out of packet cost has been estimated as low as $ 175 / yr. per family of four to $ 3K per year. Realistically the amount is likely around $ 1,000 - $ 1,200 / yr. per family.

.....but Obama wasn't going to increase taxes "not one cent" on those making under $ 250K :yeahright

and the left saw Cheney/Rove as the Emperor from Star Wars.

Well if those are goverment figures then it will cost $175X29 (thats the goverments always uses out come based education figures correction factor)=$5,075 by the end of 2009.

FRPLG
06-26-2009, 04:31 PM
I have said this before, Obama was specifically talking about income tax and if you weren't aware that he was for cap and trade you're a fool. His policy position was no secret wouldn't you agree?

I must say though, to the untrained eye (looking in your direction TTL) your grouping of taxes makes perfect sense.

No he often said just "taxes". Play semantics all you want, the message he was relaying was clear..."I'll raise taxes on rich people but not anyone else. So vote for me and the money going out of your pockets won't change." It was an unqualified notion.

saden1
06-26-2009, 04:51 PM
No he often said just "taxes". Play semantics all you want, the message he was relaying was clear..."I'll raise taxes on rich people but not anyone else. So vote for me and the money going out of your pockets won't change." It was an unqualified notion.

This is where personal responsibility comes into play and I suppose all those stupid Americans that voted for him weren't aware they were going to get screwed...what a stupid bunch. And of course there are some of us who really are for cap and trade and truly want to doom America. Democracy is a beautiful thing when you get what you want.


Let's go to the video replay:
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Trample the Elderly
06-26-2009, 04:59 PM
I have said this before, Obama was specifically talking about income tax and if you weren't aware that he was for cap and trade you're a fool. His policy position was no secret wouldn't you agree?

I must say though, to the untrained eye (looking in your direction TTL) your grouping of taxes makes perfect sense.

You just don't get it do you. Elderly starts with an E. Perhaps you should worry about your own eyes. I'll defer to Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell. The link is posted in an earlier post.

The difference between you and the average schmuck Obama voter is you actually paid attention to what he said. I met a lot of people like you in college, book smart, but street stupid.

GTripp0012
06-26-2009, 05:06 PM
This is an older article, but:

FactCheck.org: Cap-and-Trade Cost Inflation (http://www.factcheck.org/politics/cap-and-trade_cost_inflation.html)

saden1
06-26-2009, 05:40 PM
You just don't get it do you. Elderly starts with an E. Perhaps you should worry about your own eyes. I'll defer to Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell. The link is posted in an earlier post.

The difference between you and the average schmuck Obama voter is you actually paid attention to what he said. I met a lot of people like you in college, book smart, but street stupid.

Street stupid? Always the ignorant one aren't we TTL? If you ain't know 'bout ma street creds you best as'q somebody.

You hear me speak and think I won't take it to the streets?
I know enough cats that don't turn the other cheek,
But I try to keep it civilized like Menelik and other African czars,
Observing stars with war scars.

-Lauren Hill

Trample the Elderly
06-26-2009, 05:45 PM
Street stupid? Always the ignorant one aren't we TTL? If you ain't know 'bout ma street creds you best as'q somebody.

If anything you sure are good entertainment.

:laughing2

saden1
06-26-2009, 05:48 PM
This is an older article, but:

FactCheck.org: Cap-and-Trade Cost Inflation (http://www.factcheck.org/politics/cap-and-trade_cost_inflation.html)

Very nice...I love that Obama video in the article. What a brilliant man.

Trample the Elderly
06-26-2009, 06:29 PM
Very nice...I love that Obama video in the article. What a brilliant man.

I just came across this and I thought of you.

"Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses."
-- H.L. Mencken

saden1
06-26-2009, 06:47 PM
If anything you sure are good entertainment.

:laughing2


In my block it's all laughs and giggles until someone gets murked.

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