free oil , why are we hurting the environment ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEaHyzbqTA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEaHyzbqTA[/quote) Absolutely hilarious! And to show how blockheaded these goofs are "this rock that has the most incredible life" ?????

But if you think about it, these clowns are probably scamming multi-millions in donations from all across America, so they're essentially getting paid to cry and yell in the forest, not a bad gig.

Let's continue to send billions of dollars to fund regimes throughout the world that hate the U.S. and seek our demise, continue to have our economy hinged on the whims of OPEC/Venezuela or the increasing massive oil demands of China/India, and enrich foreign countries/companies rather than U.S. companies/employees because we're not sure where we "draw the line" and possibly somewhere down the line we might cross that imaginary line. :frusty:

Thank God we're at least building new nuke reactors.

I didn't know any had been approved. It amazes me that we let that resource lay fallow for so long. I hope we finally get these back into commission in a major way.

I didn't know any had been approved. It amazes me that we let that resource lay fallow for so long. I hope we finally get these back into commission in a major way.I probably should've rephrased my statement to preparing to build. A few have been approved but not broken ground yet.

Nuclear Power in the USA (http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf41.html)

probably the reason we don't drill because who is to say where to draw the line, and stop. Americans are creatures of excess, you know?

Slingin Sammy touched on it, Dmek -- and let me chime in... We are nowhere near a replacement for the internal combustion engine, (you and I will not see it in our lifetimes) and like it or not, we are still dependent on fossil fuels and will be for a long time to come.

Faced with this reality, would you rather see wildlife temporarily displaced with more offshore drilling and in places like ANWR if it meant that we would no longer have to send our soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen to the middle east to fight and die to ensure the free flow of oil?

The environmental lobby is incredibly slick in how they generate their massive amounts of funds.

Quick story, I had a Siberian Husky for almost 15 years, I get some mailer for a charity (can't remember the name) that (allegedly) rescued wolves, relocate them away from farms, and helped preserve their habitat. I sent them $ 50 once, but never sent in any more (despite the monthly junk-mail). A while later, I was reading about some of the eco-nut groups that were lobbying against drilling in ANWR and offshore and what do I see, but the name of the charity for the wolves....last time I donated to any charity without really doing my homework first.


LOL...ANWR stands for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and they do have wolves living there in need of protection from people like you who want to "drill baby drill." This is where charities in the business of "helping to preserve their habitat" come into the picture and so I wonder what is meant by "slick."


Funny story, usage of the initialism ANWR is preferred to using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge because it sounds friendlier and does not make one sound cruel and callous.

LOL...ANWR stands for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and they do have wolves living there in need of protection from people like you who want to "drill baby drill." This is where charities in the business of "helping to preserve their habitat" come into the picture and so I wonder what is meant by "slick."


Funny story, usage of the initialism ANWR is preferred to using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge because it sounds friendlier and does not make one sound cruel and callous.

So you'd rather preserve the habitat of wolves and see more Marines come home in body bags from the middle east?

So you'd rather preserve the habitat of wolves and see more Marines come home in body bags from the middle east?

No because I wouldn't send them to the middle east in the first place and I would bring them back home if they are. I would also give them training in the renewable energy sector. Maybe have them do a little farming work, manufacturing solar panels, putting up win windmills....you know, turn them all to into Army Core of Engineers types.

Just kidding, I would make a video game out of it and have them invade Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and a host of other countries with oil. And if they come back home in body-bags, well, that's the price of war and they knew what they were signing up for voluntarily. Bush had his "Mission Accomplished" banner, I would have "Command and Conquer Bitcheeeees!" banner. Let the games begin!

Slingin Sammy touched on it, Dmek -- and let me chime in... We are nowhere near a replacement for the internal combustion engine, (you and I will not see it in our lifetimes) and like it or not, we are still dependent on fossil fuels and will be for a long time to come.

Faced with this reality, would you rather see wildlife temporarily displaced with more offshore drilling and in places like ANWR if it meant that we would no longer have to send our soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen to the middle east to fight and die to ensure the free flow of oil?

First Offshore Drilling does not displace wild life it actuall attracts wild life and becomes a ecosystem of its own. Just as bridges and other obstructions in the ocean.

LOL...ANWR stands for Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and they do have wolves living there in need of protection from people like you who want to "drill baby drill." This is where charities in the business of "helping to preserve their habitat" come into the picture and so I wonder what is meant by "slick."The mail that I received had no mention of ANWR and was more geared to wolves who were venturing into human development. BTW, while there are wolves in ANWR there are only about 25-30 of them. I'm willing to spend the funds to relocate those wolves. Again to Beems point, I'd rather relocate a few wolves than have Americans dying in the Middle East or dying from a terrorist attack that was funded by oil revenue that originated from the U.S.

Arctic Refuge: Gray Wolf (http://alaska.fws.gov/nwr/arctic/wolf.htm)


Funny story, usage of the initialism ANWR is preferred to using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge because it sounds friendlier and does not make one sound cruel and callous.Certainly wouldn't want to be cold & callous by using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Maybe I could make some non-cruel & callous joking references against Bush about U.S. servicemen & women coming home in body bags.

The mail that I received had no mention of ANWR and was more geared to wolves who were venturing into human development. BTW, while there are wolves in ANWR there are only about 25-30 of them. I'm willing to spend the funds to relocate those wolves. Again to Beems point, I'd rather relocate a few wolves than have Americans dying in the Middle East or dying from a terrorist attack that was funded by oil revenue that originated from the U.S.

Arctic Refuge: Gray Wolf (http://alaska.fws.gov/nwr/arctic/wolf.htm)


Those guys do relocation work to, no? Honestly though, why relocate them when they have a perfect place to be fruitful and multiply?

Certainly wouldn't want to be cold & callous by using Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Maybe I could make some non-cruel & callous joking references against Bush about U.S. servicemen & women coming home in body bags.

I'm all for keeping it real, and on the real tip that was a poor joke in response to a poor leading question.