Antonio Pierce facing gun charges(Burress incident)

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gibbsisgod
07-28-2009, 03:42 PM
You are correct I would have still gotten a ticket or had to pay a fine, but they would not even have considered throwing my ass in jail for even one night, much less three years. I understand the strict gun laws thing in NYC...I do. Here is my problem why are they trying to thow the man under the bus when there was no ill intent. There was no pre meditated crime. He ended up shooting himself. I guarentee you that he learned from this mess and he will not do it again. It is not going to take three years in a prison to punish him for this, he punished himself already.See, we are on the same page in that regard. The prison thing is more about a deterent(SP?) for others than a punishment for PB. PB is a big name and they want to use him as an example to show how tough they are on gun crimes. Whether or not he deserves Jail time is not for me to say but I do think he has to face the consequences of his decision to caryy the gun that night.

JLee9718
07-28-2009, 04:35 PM
Somebody mentioned Steve Czaban...I know this is the wrong thread, but how can ESPN 980 fire Brian Mitchell and keep Czaban? I just don't understand...(Dan Snyder bought the station, and Mitchell had a verbal fight with Portis last year).

Coff
07-28-2009, 05:22 PM
Gun charge or not, you can be sure Roger Goodell will come down hard on him in his typical fashion....he might even give him a stern lecture.

SBXVII
07-28-2009, 05:28 PM
You are correct I would have still gotten a ticket or had to pay a fine, but they would not even have considered throwing my ass in jail for even one night, much less three years. I understand the strict gun laws thing in NYC...I do. Here is my problem why are they trying to thow the man under the bus when there was no ill intent. There was no pre meditated crime. He ended up shooting himself. I guarentee you that he learned from this mess and he will not do it again. It is not going to take three years in a prison to punish him for this, he punished himself already.

Now I have a lot of questions but here's my take of what you guys are trying to say....

PB purchased a gun legally in NY.
He lives in NJ.
Never registered it in NJ.
Carried firearm across state lines.
Fired his gun in a no shooting zone (probably) in a crouded bar.
Injured himself.

CRedskinsRule
07-28-2009, 05:38 PM
Now I have a lot of questions but here's my take of what you guys are trying to say....

PB purchased a gun legally in NY.
He lives in NJ.
Never registered it in NJ.
Carried firearm across state lines.
Fired his gun in a no shooting zone (probably) in a crouded bar.
Injured himself.

Actually I think he bought and registered it in Florida
Moved to NJ
Never registered it in NJ
Let the Florida registration expire
Carried it across State Lines into NY
Shot himself in the leg (literally and figuratively)
Tried to go to a hospital under an assumed name
Most likely doing time in NY under his real name.

He could have prevented it in several ways at several points along the way.

(note, not really passing judgement on any part except the shooting itself, since I think he should have been allowed to have the gun but if you shoot it off in a club, well thats just plain dumb.)

Giantone
07-28-2009, 05:52 PM
Actually I think he bought and registered it in Florida
Moved to NJ
Never registered it in NJ
Let the Florida registration expire
Carried it across State Lines into NY
Shot himself in the leg (literally and figuratively)
Tried to go to a hospital under an assumed name
Most likely doing time in NY under his real name.

He could have prevented it in several ways at several points along the way.

(note, not really passing judgement on any part except the shooting itself, since I think he should have been allowed to have the gun but if you shoot it off in a club, well thats just plain dumb.)


Well said , nice post and to PB...................by-by!He's an ASS!

SBXVII
07-28-2009, 05:59 PM
Actually I think he bought and registered it in Florida
Moved to NJ
Never registered it in NJ
Let the Florida registration expire
Carried it across State Lines into NY
Shot himself in the leg (literally and figuratively)
Tried to go to a hospital under an assumed name
Most likely doing time in NY under his real name.

He could have prevented it in several ways at several points along the way.

(note, not really passing judgement on any part except the shooting itself, since I think he should have been allowed to have the gun but if you shoot it off in a club, well thats just plain dumb.)

Thank You. If he didn't renew it then it's unregistered. Then never registered it in NY or where ever he was living. Took his PPD(personal protective device.LOL) out to the club and fired it off (accidentally) putting other people at risk. I don't see how a resonable person defends that.

unlicensed
fired it off
injured someone(himself)

He would pay a price in any state. Not to mention he probably had concealed it with out a permit for that state (NY).

Giantone
07-28-2009, 05:59 PM
As for AP the feeling is regardless of what the DA says,

1)After the gun went off ...saw to the welfare of his friend.
No crime.
2)picked up the gun,smart ...no but do you really want to leave a gun lying around a crowded bar?...not a crime.
3) took said friend to hospital...for medical attention,no crime

4) ......as soon as police asked about ..said gun turned it over and answerd every question. no crime


...............feeling is the DA is only squeezing AP to get Burress to testify.

SBXVII
07-28-2009, 06:02 PM
As for AP the feeling is regardless of what the DA says,

1)After the gun went off ...saw to the welfare of his friend.
No crime.
2)picked up the gun,smart ...no but do you really want to leave a gun lying around a crowded bar?...not a crime.
3) took said friend to hospital...for medical attention,no crime

4) ......as soon as police asked about ..said gun turned it over and answerd every question. no crime


...............feeling is the DA is only squeezing AP to get Burress to testify.


I somewhat agree with you. PB should have been loaded into an ambulance and taken to the hospital. AP should have stayed at the scene and spoke with the police and handed it over to them. Whichever came first.

CRedskinsRule
07-28-2009, 06:11 PM
As for AP the feeling is regardless of what the DA says,

1)After the gun went off ...saw to the welfare of his friend.
No crime.
2)picked up the gun,smart ...no but do you really want to leave a gun lying around a crowded bar?...not a crime.
3) took said friend to hospital...for medical attention,no crime

4) ......as soon as police asked about ..said gun turned it over and answerd every question. no crime


...............feeling is the DA is only squeezing AP to get Burress to testify.

Not really sure, and I like AP so I hope he didn't, but
on #3, they went in under a concealed name - possible obstruction of justice or fraud

4) not sure of the law, but he was in possession of an unregistered gun, and it was not his, and it had been fired. At the least dumb possibly a crime. If someone tries to hand me a gun that i know was just fired in a crowded bar. Sorry think I gotta pass.

and 5) attempted to conceal the gun. Nice spin that as soon as he was asked. But it still was concealing evidence.
I hope AP doesn't get the hammer, and really that he takes a minor plea and lets PB deal with his own stupidity. But we will see.

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