You Got Training Camp Questions? Slingin Sammy's Got the Answers

SS33's Training Camp Report - Aug. 5th
Arrived at about 7:50am. LBS & DL came out first, then OL started filtering out. Rinehart and Batiste were first out on OL. Buges was the first coach out and was working on technique with Rinehart by 8:15. Pre-practice started at 8:30am.

Keep in mind this is a light contact practice, no tackling, no full-on blocking, no lower body contact (cut blocks, etc.). Pretty much just execution of assignments and technique work.

I'll try to run through the questions one-by-one:

1. Robert Thomas looked fine. He's at OLB with the 2nd unit.

2. Interaction of position coaches:
Bugel - I pray I have his energy when I'm his age. Other than the brace on his knee and a limp later in practice he looked good.
Zorn - Working directly with the QBs, Meidt is simply a helper. Clearly the OC and man in charge of the offense, very hands-on, which IMO is a good thing.
All the other coaches seemed to interact with their groups well. Not as much correction/teaching as I expected, but that's probably because they don't want to embarass any players in an open practice.

3. OL Scouting Report - Starting OL today LT to RT, Samuels, Dockery, Rabach (non-contact), Rinehart, Bridges. In pre-practice they were going through Pass-Pro and working against stunts. A lot of the younger guys were getting reps. Hard to tell much from the OL with minimal contact. In OL/DL one-one drills, I didn't see most of it as I was charting passes by the QBs, but I did see Rinehart get abused on a swim move by Gholston. Next play he got bull rushed, but recovered. Our backup C, Montgomery held his own. Bridges went against Jarmon, who is very quick off the edge but directed him wide. Bridges isn't comfortable yet at RT and an edge rusher with speed will be a problem right now. But the more reps the better to get comfortable.

4. Barnes vs. Smoot: Right now Smoot is starting at RCB with Rogers out. This is not good. Smoot was abused at least three times today deep by more than 3 yards. Barnes is starting at LCB on the second team. If Barnes is solid in the first two pre-season games, Smoot is gone.

5. Jarmon: Good speed off the edge. Not NFL ready yet. Next year he should be in the mix at LDE.

6. McIntosh moving well, reading and reacting well. Coverage was fine minus getting smoked once by Cooley in the RZ.

7. Hensen & Glenn - Neither stood out good or bad. Both are in the rotation at 2nd/3rd team.

8. Chris Wilson - I didn't notice Wilson getting reps at OLB.

9. Marko Mitchell - Tall, Route running OK, hands don't appear to be a problem. Didn't stand-out in any way though.

10. DBs?: The secondary looks good, aside from Smoot. With Hall/Rogers at CB, Landry FS, Horton SS, Tyron, Barnes, Moore. The secondary should be a strong point. They appear to be covering well and in position to make plays/hits.

11. No 3-4 defense used at all. Saw a lot of the 4-3 Cover 1 Man, also Cover 2 Zone, and Nickel.

12. Aldridge - Didn't stand out either way

13. Orakpo looks good, strong coming off the edge as Sam or at RDE. In our base 4-3 he'll line up at Sam. On passing downs he's been moving to RDE with Carter at LDE. Appears to be reading and handling his assignments.

14. Suisham / Rayner - Other than FG/XPT work for about 10 minutes nothing else on Specials. Both were showing good leg strength although Suisham appeared more accurate. About three of Rayners kicks seemed to have a hook in them, but they were still good. Both nailed 45 yarders with at least 8 yds to spare as Smith was counting down.

15. HB Blades is strictly working at MLB, backing up Fletch.

16. Passing game is mostly 3-5 step drops.

17. D Starters: RDE Carter, DT (1 Tech) Big AL, DT (3 Tech) Griff, LDE Daniels, Sam Orakpo, MLB Fletch, WLB Rocky, LCB Hall, RCB Smoot, SS Horton, FS Landry

18. O Starters: LT Samuels, LG Dock, C Rabach, RG Rinehart, RT Bridges, TE Cooley, SE (X) - Moss, FL (Z) - ARE, FB Sellers, HB Portis, QB Campbell

Good Info.

Awesome, looking forward to that thread. I got some questions on some of your above points. Maybe you could expand on them.

- No Big Mike, DT, C. Rogers, R. Thomas today.
(Rogers seems to have been a lot of time, cause for concern?)

- R. thomas walking with a very noticable limp.
(Been worried about him for a while, I don't know if he lasts past final cuts. Your thoughts?)

- Smoot looks really bad in individuals drills and 11-11.
(I've heard he looks probably worse than end of last year and Tryon has passed him on the depth chart...permanent change?)

- Chase Daniels is real short
(What is he like 5'10"? How'd he look?)

- Brennan needs to lose that gay @ss visor and tights.
(Did you yell out Pineapple Je5us when he walked by?)

The visor is cool, id have to agree on the tights though.

Thanks Sammy.

SS33 Training Camp Report - Aug. 5th Part 2

19. Offensive Formation Scouting: The formations shown were fairly basic. I-Form & I-Form Strong/Weak, Singleback 3WR, Singleback 4WR, 5WR (once or twice), Bunch with WRs and another with TEs to run, Pro (split backs), Gun w/3WR-TE and 4WR.

20. Impressions of QBs:
-Daniels: As I mentioned earlier Daniels is no more than 5'10". He was a little wild in early drills but settled down. He has a sidearm release at times which definitely isn't good at his height. He does have good timing as his passes arrive right on time. He may stay around on the practice squad but because of his height I don't see him being an NFL QB
-Collins: VERY slow footwork, arm is weak. He is strictly a game manager at this point. He knows what to do, but his arm is no threat to complete anything over 15 yds that needs any "zip" on it.
- Brennan: for all the Cult of Colt who like to rave about his accuracy, he was the most inaccurate QB today. While running through the practice period of QBs throwing individual routes to the WRs with no D, here are the stats: JC 12-12 all but one pass was on the money, TC 10-10 some passes weak or behind but caught, CB 5-8 one catch was saved by the WR, CD 8-8 good timing. Also while throwing fades, CB overthrew at least three of these while JC only missed one.
That being said CB's footwork is better and it appears his throwing motion is less "backyard" and more of a proper delivery. His arm strength appears improved. Based on what I saw today I would give CB a shot at the #2, but definitely keep Collins on the roster.
-JC: I believe we are in for a pleasant surprise this year. JC appears in command of the O, his passes are fired in there and on the money. A couple of times in Red Zone work he held the ball or threw it away, but that's to be expected with no run threat and the D knows what the O is going to do. He also threw 2 TDs on fades (Moss, ARE)in Red Zone work.

Random Notes:
- During play and formation recognition the defense had some confusion in the secondary and at LB a few times. It was hard to make out exactly who were the culprits as this was on the far field.
- Williams had a couple of high snaps in Offensive Run period.
- Bridges jumped offsides twice

One on one WR/DBs
- JC to ARE, smoked Smoot deep, pass on target, ARE drop
- JC to Moss, smoked Tryon on deep in
- CB hit Eloi twice
- JC completed 6-7 with Barnes breaking up his only Incompletion.

I'll have a detailed post a bit later tonight. Quick notes, thoughts:
- No Big Mike, DT, C. Rogers, R. Thomas today.
- Heyer doing stregthening exercises for his knee, appears to be moving fine.
- R. thomas walking with a very noticable limp.
- Smoot looks really bad in individuals drills and 11-11.
- Chase Daniels is real short
- Brennan needs to lose that gay @ss visor and tights.
- Todd Collins is even slower and his arm weaker up close.
- I think our OL will be fine running the ball, pass-pro needs some work.
- saden, no 3-4 was used at all. I don't expect it this year.
- Orakpo looks good
- Daniels and McIntosh appear to be moving well with no noticeable problems.
- Blades is exclusively backing up Fletch, no OLB work.

I've got a ton of notes and think I'll be able to answer most questions.

I think SmootSmack just felt a disturbance in the force. LOL.

SS33 Training Camp Report - Aug. 5th Part 2

19. Offensive Formation Scouting: The formations shown were fairly basic. I-Form & I-Form Strong/Weak, Singleback 3WR, Singleback 4WR, 5WR (once or twice), Bunch with WRs and another with TEs to run, Pro (split backs), Gun w/3WR-TE and 4WR.


Thanks bro,:food-smil
A couple of questions...
Did they run any double TEs sets Singleback/I-Form big/stack?
Do you recall which routes were the focus?

I'm not surprised to hear this about Smoot. He stunk something awful last season. At this point he's 90% mouth and 10% performance. He's close to done, if not already there. He's twice as expensive to cut this year compared to 2010, so I suspect he'll be a Redskin for 2009, and that will be it for him. He's a fringe nickel back at best right now, which is why I asked about Barnes.

Thanks for your work, SS33! Much appreciated.

-Collins: VERY slow footwork, arm is weak. He is strictly a game manager at this point. He knows what to do, but his arm is no threat to complete anything over 15 yds that needs any "zip" on it.

I guess with Collins, should he ever sub in for JC and pass the ball, expect a very heavy dose of short-to-intermediate passes(in other words, 'old-school' WCO).

I'm going to lock this thread and direct everyone to the following thread

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/30988-slingin-sammys-training-camp-notes-august.html#post573039

I thought it would be easier to follow SS33's answers this way