I think Jim Zorn is a great head football coach.

Joe Gibbs 1 was a great football coach. Bill Walsh was a great football coach. Bill Belichick is a great football coach. Jim Zorn is not a great football coach, he may not even be a good offensive coordinator. The jury is still out.

If the jury is still out, saying he IS a great football coach is just as valid as saying he IS NOT a great football coach isn't it?

The jury is still out.

very funny...we typed the same phrase at the same time without knowing it...that should tell you something

This is a prediction thread. I can't make any kind of case for Jim Zorn's greatness yet!

Yea....I guess you can't other than the thread title.

You're talking about a man who is a great leader of men, who won 3 SB's with 3 different QB's and in his day was the master of the halftime adjustment. Let's not go overboard here....

COULD BE skinsfan69. As you said, the jury is still out but I do think Zorn could become a great coach. I have no more respect for anyone than Joe Gibbs, but Gibbs didn't start out too great either. Gibbs wasn't judged a great coach in his first year either, but he sure turned out to be one. I never said he would be Joe Gibbs, I said he could be the best SINCE Gibbs.

i really like the fact that Snyder didnt grab one of the old retread coaches. hopefully he will give Zorn enough time to find out if he can coach in this league

I think you'll get your wish skinsnut. He has about 3 times the amount of offensive plays installed this year as he did last year.

Yea....I guess you can't other than the thread title.

I think Jim Zorn is a great head football coach, but plenty of Redskin fans and people all across the land don't know it yet.

Would that be better for you?

Zorn is a up and coming coach, with alot of room for improvement. If he can stay in town for a few years, we will then have our answer if he is a good or great coach.

You measure greatness by how many rings you have won.

Get some rings Coach!

I am hopefull too.
I will wait another season, but my primary concern with the guy was his inability to adjust play calling mid season when it was clearly evident that defensive coordinators figured him out.
I think some of this was due to him only installing a base package....hopefully he has a full slate of plays that is installed that includes some misdirection rather than the basic gibbs run scheme + basic west coast passing.

What is really needed are reverses, shotgun, draws, WR quick screens, etc to spread the secondary out as to not crowd the box.

Most of our offense last year did not suprise anyone...especially after the first couple months...remember, we went 2-6 after an almost sure playoff level start of 6-2. That to me aint great coaching.

The good thing is any improvement in playcalling should show dramatic improvement in offensive production.
If Zorn is depending on the Skins offense to score due to having more talent and more execution alone, we will be in for a long season.
The reality is he needs to scheme better and make better play calling adjustments before I call him a great coach.

The jury is still out on Zorn

I wish him all the best, our dreams depend on him being better than last year
Not sure i agree with some of your points on Zorn. Frontline injuries and bad pass protection limit play calling ability. Reverses and fakes are gimmiks only to be pulled out once in awhile. Last year we had screens, slants, and alot of WR's catching the ball at the line of scrimmage. His play calling has alot to do with the pocket collasping and not being able to throw the ball deep. Couple that with the fact that JC has a slow release and takes long strides makes it tough to call long yardage pass plays.

He seems to be following Walsh in that he is rather involved with his QBs and stressing mechanics from them. He's a straight shooter as well, so he definitely can earn, and likely has earned, the trust of his players.