PATIENCE!!!! Try to be a FAN!! History Lesson

Gigantic Accolades Hogskins.. We all had high hopes for the return of Gibbs, many hopes were unfounded (13-3 predictions for example) but we do forget that we have new starters at 5 offensive positions (Brunell, Portis, Brown, Cooley/Rasby and Dockery) as well as new players at #3 WR, another key position. Offensively there just needs to be better execution.

Defensively I don't have any complaints.. Smoot has been beat a little bit this year, but Bryant and Morgan both made excellent plays on the ball.. Taylor has made a couple mistakes (Galloway almost beat him week one, the HB pass last week, one big catch by A. Davis yesterday) that he will learn from. Washington admitted he blew the assignment on the Shea TD pass yesterday so that's just execution again.

Bottom line, players need to make plays. Gibbs will make the adjustments to improve the game calling, but as Hogskin articulated, be patient 3 losses by 6, 3 and 4 points seem to indicate we aren't that far off..

There is an amazing amount of frustration coming out on this site. Guys, you need to be patient!!! But more that that you need to be SUPPORTIVE!!!! I sure don't see much of that around here. I see a LOT of FAIR-WEATHER fans that don't understand the game.

Here's a little history lesson for you guys that are having a hissy-fit:

Gibbs came to Washington in 1981. He started off by losing his first 5 games. Of those 5 games, the offense was terrible - scored 17 or LESS 4 out of the first 5 games. That year, the team ended up 8-8. The last two games were wins, and the team scored 30 and 38 points in them.

In 1982, the Redskins won the Super bowl. And that was the first of 4 Super Bowl trips for Joe Gibbs' teams. Missing the playoffs was rare.

To you guys that want Spurrier back, I sure wish there was an NFL owner dumb enough to hire him as head coach next year. Then you could go root for THAT team. It was not just the W-L record. He was completely over his head in the NFL and knew it.

If the team has not turned it around with a winning record by this time NEXT year, then come back and moan/groan, and maybe you will find some reasonable people who will listen to you. But you won't now.

If you want a MORE RECENT history lesson, look at New England's start under Belichick. He started 5-11 in 2000, averaging 17 points a game. Look what he has done since. The fans that were calling for HIS head must feel REAL bright. There are MANY more examples just like this. The top coaches turn a team around by the second season - not all go the the SB that fast (as Gibbs & Belichick did), but the team will definitely be turned around if the coach is among the elite. Joe Gibbs is an elite coach.


Valid point and all, but.... year after year i hear be patient, we'll get this thing turned around.... yadda yadda yadda until we win on a regular basis or at least beat the friggin' cowboys once or twice, i feel we all reserve the right to bitch and moan till our hearts content. That is what "fans" do. If you aren't winning and haven't won in a long time and a hall of fame coach come's back out of retirement to lead us to the promiseland and we lose 3 in a row in heartbreaking fashion to start the season off, it's hard to subside your frustration! really.

having that said, I will from this day foward try to have a more patient and have a more positive outlook on things......

Good stuff, Hogskin. I completely agree about the time frame for this team getting good. Patience is hard, especially when we lose to our arch rivals in humiliating ways. But it's the right move here.

WE WILL BE GREAT AGAIN.

I agree, hogskin. Thats a very good and well thought out post. I defintley understand why people post how they do, right after a loss. Obviously everyone is p*ssed off and frustrated, and people just right whatever to help vent and take out their frustrations without thinking it through. I'm 100% guilty of it as well, I do it all the time. I proboly wrote 30 posts yesterday that I take back. Good post though, hopefully this week we can end this streak with a W.

Great post hogskin. I agree with everything you said.

And I want to know is who the hell said that we should bring back Spurrier?

haha...(could it be daseal) J/K

Valid point and all, but.... year after year i hear be patient, we'll get this thing turned around.... yadda yadda yadda until we win on a regular basis or at least beat the friggin' cowboys once or twice, i feel we all reserve the right to bitch and moan till our hearts content. That is what "fans" do. If you aren't winning and haven't won in a long time and a hall of fame coach come's back out of retirement to lead us to the promiseland and we lose 3 in a row in heartbreaking fashion to start the season off, it's hard to subside your frustration! really.

having that said, I will from this day foward try to have a more patient and have a more positive outlook on things......

Well, part of the problem is that there WAS no patience in the previous years. Turnover in coaches and players year after year. The other part of the problem was that at least a couple of the previous coaching staffs were doing a horrible job, and it was obvious to everyone around them. And the team was not improving at the END of the season (or the end of the second season in one case). I agree it is frustrating as hell. I had a horrible day yesterday.

And Gmanc, I know exactly what you mean. As much as I hate the Cowboys, I was even more upset and frustrated after this game because at least we DID win the Cowboy game, and the refs stole it. We just lost this one - and to a team we should drub. But I stayed off the site a while, and a few hours later I was able to put it all in perspective. (Of course, if this were 20 years ago, I would also be repairing a couple items that had accidentally bumped a wall during the game... LOL - that is one of the ONLY good things about aging)

You know what I have been reading about how everyone is frustrated and in one post somebody stated something along the lines that it is not just this" F-ing year but the last 12 F-ing years". I have been a Redskin fan as far back as i can remember. I am the only one in my family, and actually have several Dallas fans on my wifes side of the family. It is hard to sit and watch the Redskins loose a game, it is real hard so I understand the frustration. But you know what I will be doing this week and this sunday night, the same thing I have done the last 12 years (and all the years i have been a redskin fan) and that is root for the REDSKINS. I am a redskins fan win or lose I love this team, and if there is one thing i could say to Gibbs and the rest of the team is "I got there back" win or lose I am there, upset, mad, frustrated whatever. I am and will always be a Redskin fan threw thick and thin, and when this does get turned around I will be there to loving every minute of it.

A true Redskin fan wont quite, wont cry, wont whine, and will be there for the lose as much if not more than they would be there for the victory.

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I totally disagree with this thread. We have high expecatations because of the so called hype about the players and coaches. They get paid very well last time I checked. Therefore losing is unacceptable.

I agree with the post Hogskin. The frustration I have had is directed at teh players not Gibbs or the coaching staff. I think the Redskins would be 3-1 if thier players could hold onto the ball. There is nothing the coaches can do about fumbles. I am 100% behind coach Gibbs.

I totally disagree with this thread. We have high expecatations because of the so called hype about the players and coaches. They get paid very well last time I checked. Therefore losing is unacceptable.

So is your argument that the Redskins shouldn't lose because they get paid well?