Redskins' Secondary Woes

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MTK
08-27-2009, 03:27 PM
Not sure I agree that we have or will have "woes" in the secondary. A good pass rush cures all, and even then, I like the talent in the secondary to begin with.

ChickenMonkey
08-27-2009, 03:28 PM
No pass rush = no pass defense. But it's not like we don't have question marks. Rogers hasn't put it all together yet. He's played well in stretches but not a whole season. Hall played like shit in Oakland but seemed to play decent when he got here. I think Hall will bounce back and get to his playing level in Atl. Horton should be better but I'm really expecting Landry to start to play at a Pro Bowl level. Smoot is OK. Barring injury and an improved pass rush we should be good in the secondary.

The secondary is actually going to be a problem, at the nickle spot. Everone underestimated Shawn Springs value to this team, having him here allowed Rogers to play the nickle...Smoot playing the nickle is a liability, it will show up several times this yr and it needs to be addressed.
The Patriots game should give us a good idea of how bad its going to be!

FRPLG
08-27-2009, 03:29 PM
One thing that has bothered me about the D since Sean Taylor's death is that Landry hasn't taken ownership of the deep middle of the field. Compared to being at FedEX and seeing the whole field, TV coverage didn't do justice to how #21 took away the middle of the field. For whatever reason, Landry hasn't delivered enough signature hits and plays on the ball that make receivers/QBs think twice about testing his space. I want to see Kareem Moore get some time at FS, freeing Landry to play close to the line of scrimmage in his more natural SS role. I feel that should be the D's standard safety package on 3rd down passing situations.

Landry is good. What Sean did was special. It's not like there are any other safeties in the league who commanded that much of the field. Landry won't ever be able to do that.

I think we're slowly forgetting that ST was on the easy way to being the best or quite nearly the best safety in league history. He was probably going to do things for an extended period of time that were simply extraordinary.

GridIron26
08-27-2009, 03:50 PM
Good read! Although I'm not sure if it's all about secondary though.. Every team's secondary have let big plays to happen once in a while.. I guess I would have to pick Hall as an weakness, he is good but he also gambles.. Hall did let some big plays to happen but he got lucky (Eagles game comes to the mind, DeSean dropped the ball two times.) Rogers doesn't do that often, at all? I think the nickel back is our main problem, Smoot lost more than a step as he always give this a huge lofty space between him and WR.. I'm hoping Barnes or maybe Tryon will manage to crack as nickel starter later in the season.. I'm pretty sure Horton will improve with his coverage areas, since he seems to be still a leveled head.. As for Landry, I truly hope he will break out this season or otherwise I would be very disappointed..

Sean Taylor, nobody could commanded the field the way he did.. My heart stops when his name is brought up.. It is one of very disappointing tragic events, he could have been the best one we ever watched in our life time (and he still is to this day).. There will not be someone who we could find to replicate like him.. If he is still here with us, then we would be basically guaranteed to be #1 defense, along with Orakpo and Haynesworth.. Taylor and Landry would have freedom to roam all over the field, which will put fear into every opponents..

skinsfan69
08-27-2009, 03:52 PM
The secondary is actually going to be a problem, at the nickle spot. Everone underestimated Shawn Springs value to this team, having him here allowed Rogers to play the nickle...Smoot playing the nickle is a liability, it will show up several times this yr and it needs to be addressed.
The Patriots game should give us a good idea of how bad its going to be!

I agree. New England's offense doesn't play around like our mickey mouse offense does. It will be a very good test.

PennSkinsFan
08-27-2009, 03:52 PM
The thing that bothers me is this calf injury of Rogers. Rogers barely put any time in during camp and has yet to play in the preseason. Yet he is penciled in opposite of Hall. I would think after those two your go to guys are Smoot and Barnes.

Lotus
08-27-2009, 03:54 PM
The secondary is actually going to be a problem, at the nickle spot. Everone underestimated Shawn Springs value to this team, having him here allowed Rogers to play the nickle...Smoot playing the nickle is a liability, it will show up several times this yr and it needs to be addressed.
The Patriots game should give us a good idea of how bad its going to be!

I agree that Smoot has problems playing the nickel corner. But he's not a terrible nickel back, either. There are much worse problems that a secondary can have than a middle-of-the-road nickel back. Many teams would kill to have their biggest secondary problem be at nickel corner.

skinsfan69
08-27-2009, 03:54 PM
Good read! Although I'm not sure if it's all about secondary though.. Every team's secondary have let big plays to happen once in a while.. I guess I would have to pick Hall as an weakness, he is good but he also gambles.. Hall did let some big plays to happen but he got lucky (Eagles game comes to the mind, DeSean dropped the ball two times.) Rogers doesn't do that often, at all? I think the nickel back is our main problem, Smoot lost more than a step as he always give this a huge lofty space between him and WR.. I'm hoping Barnes or maybe Tryon will manage to crack as nickel starter later in the season.. I'm pretty sure Horton will improve with his coverage areas, since he seems to be still a leveled head.. As for Landry, I truly hope he will break out this season or otherwise I would be very disappointed..

Sean Taylor, nobody could commanded the field the way he did.. My heart stops when his name is brought up.. It is one of very disappointing tragic events, he could have been the best one we ever watched in our life time (and he still is to this day).. There will not be someone who we could find to replicate like him.. If he is still here with us, then we would be basically guaranteed to be #1 defense, along with Orakpo and Haynesworth.. Taylor and Landry would have freedom to roam all over the field, which will put fear into every opponents..

I sometimes think how freakin silly this defense would be w/ #21 too. But I think it's time for Landry to step up and take control and I think he will this year.

GridIron26
08-27-2009, 03:55 PM
The thing that bothers me is this calf injury of Rogers. Rogers barely put any time in during camp and has yet to play in the preseason. Yet he is penciled in opposite of Hall. I would think after those two your go to guys are Smoot and Barnes.

The Rogers' injury bothers me too, I'm sure it does to many fans.. However I think Redskins are being smart and let Rogers to rest as much as he could, so that way the injury would have small chance to linger throughout the season, just like with Springs..

Chico23231
08-27-2009, 04:02 PM
Good article, I see how secondary can be an issue but still think the d line will really help. Injuries are the biggest fear at this point. I still worry bout the health of the oline more and the overall offensive to me is still the point of most concern with this team.

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