JoeRedskin
09-09-2009, 03:13 PM
I wish I could be so sure about that.
I do think this pertains to those on the fringe as SS33 said above.
I think what's naive is to think there is absolutely no racist element out there to this, fringe or not.
Of course there is racism - both ways. Has been, is now and will be always - it's one of the easiest ways to hate. In this case, however, the "controversy" was not about race it was about "Stupid Hicks v. Commie Bastards".
firstdown
09-09-2009, 03:23 PM
The birthers can legitimately be called racist/xenophobes, don't know about these people whining about the speech. Then again the GOP is infested with birthers.
What is a birthers?
Slingin Sammy 33
09-09-2009, 03:42 PM
speaking of 911 Truthers, I got a good laugh out of this
Report: Charlie Sheen Seeks Meeting With Obama to Discuss 9/11 'Cover-Up' - Celebrity Gossip | Entertainment News | Arts And Entertainment - FOXNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548400,00.html??test=faces)
Slingin Sammy 33
09-09-2009, 03:44 PM
What is a birthers?
The knuckleheads that believe Obama wasn't realy born in Hawaii, but in Kenya or somewhere else.
firstdown
09-09-2009, 04:15 PM
The knuckleheads that believe Obama wasn't realy born in Hawaii, but in Kenya or somewhere else.
Thats silly everyone knows Obama was not born he was raised from the dead to save the lost souls that of people who support him.
12thMan
09-09-2009, 04:32 PM
Thats silly everyone knows Obama was not born he was raised from the dead to save the lost souls that of people who support him.
You know we disagree on some, if not most, political issues. But I do appreciate your sense of humor.
firstdown
09-09-2009, 04:36 PM
You know we disagree on some, if not most, political issues. But I do appreciate your sense of humor.
Thanks, we probably agree on more things then you think we just believe in different ways of fixing or correcting the problems or issue.
12thMan
09-09-2009, 04:39 PM
Thanks, we probably agree on more things then you think we just believe in different ways of fixing or correcting the problems or issue.
Yep, no doubt. Actually I'm sure that's the case with most people. We just tend to hold onto tighter to our method more than the actual solution.
firstdown
09-09-2009, 05:00 PM
Yep, no doubt. Actually I'm sure that's the case with most people. We just tend to hold onto tighter to our method more than the actual solution.
But the solution is what most people disagree about. While you think goverment should provide healthcare (your solution) I think we need to fix the private market (my solution). Its not that we disagree that something needs to be done with health ins. we don't agree on the solution to fix the problem.
12thMan
09-09-2009, 05:19 PM
But the solution is what most people disagree about. While you think goverment should provide healthcare (your solution) I think we need to fix the private market (my solution). Its not that we disagree that something needs to be done with health ins. we don't agree on the solution to fix the problem.
Umm...actually we do. I don't think anyone is saying government is the solution. And to the extent that government should get involved, there is some albeit very little, consensus on the right that we should incorporate a version of a co-opt plan. Majorities on the left and right believe the private market needs overhauling.
I don't want to re-hash the debate here. There's already a good thread going.