The Health Care Reform Address Thread

Men of low quality are just that. Much cannot be expected of them.

Meh. He's apologized for it already...


WASHINGTON (CNN) — GOP Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina issued a statement Wednesday night apologizing for his outburst during President Obama's speech to Congress:

“This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.”

Meh. He's apologized for it already...


WASHINGTON (CNN) — GOP Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina issued a statement Wednesday night apologizing for his outburst during President Obama's speech to Congress:

“This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.”

This stupid f*ck face needs not apologize but he does need to read the house bill which explicitly prohibits extending healthcare to illegal immigrants (sec 246, page 143 (http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf)):

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States
Don't worry though folks, your current wait time at the emergency room won't improve with or without universal healthcare.

This stupid f*ck face needs not apologize but he does need to read the house bill which explicitly prohibits extending healthcare to illegal immigrants (sec 246, page 143 (http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf)):

Don't worry though folks, your current wait time at the emergency room won't improve with or without universal healthcare.

Actually, he absolutely needed to apologize. Despite being a Republican, I love that when this dingbat called the White House afterwards hoping to apologize to Obama, instead he got Rahm Emanuel on the phone. Man I wish I could have heard that conversation.

Obama heckled by GOP during speech: 'You lie!' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_heckling)

Actually, he absolutely needed to apologize. Despite being a Republican, I love that when this dingbat called the White House afterwards hoping to apologize to Obama, instead he got Rahm Emanuel on the phone. Man I wish I could have heard that conversation.

Obama heckled by GOP during speech: 'You lie!' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_heckling)

I'm a big believer in "if you said it you meant it and if you meant it you need not apologize." This dumbf*ck clearly meant what he said so an apology is neither necessary nor desired. Honestly though, the bar has been set so low by the GOP this is hardly surprising. Not telling a lie while screaming "you lie" is too much to ask? I find the recursive nature of his "you lie" scream hilarious and sad.

This stupid f*ck face needs not apologize but he does need to read the house bill which explicitly prohibits extending healthcare to illegal immigrants (sec 246, page 143 (http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf)):

Don't worry though folks, your current wait time at the emergency room won't improve with or without universal healthcare.

The problem with saying "This bill makes this or that unavailable to illegals" is that there are lots of laws that make lots of things unavailable to illegals (like their presence here to begin with) and they flout those laws. They're illegal see. The laws don't apply to them.

I love the movie A Few Good Men. One part that I love is the questioning of the base commander by Cruise. In that section, he repeatedly asks the commander if he ordered that the weakest soldier not be harmed, every time the commander responded more and more aggressively that he ordered the man not be harmed, and that he ordered a transfer of the man off the post. In a great moment, the lawyer asks, why the two orders. Excellent.

That's what I think of when Saden quotes the bill, saying it explicitly says not to pay illegals. if they are here illegally, and should not receive benefits anyways, why does it need to be written into the bill.

anyway thats my 2cents

Actually, he absolutely needed to apologize. Despite being a Republican, I love that when this dingbat called the White House afterwards hoping to apologize to Obama, instead he got Rahm Emanuel on the phone. Man I wish I could have heard that conversation.

Obama heckled by GOP during speech: 'You lie!' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090910/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_heckling)

Good to see there was swift criticism of this moron from his fellow party members.

Yeah can you imagine that phone call? Dude is probably walking funny today LOL

Pretty childish and disrespectful.

I don't recall you saying this when these things happened to Bush and it started before he even took office.

This stupid f*ck face needs not apologize but he does need to read the house bill which explicitly prohibits extending healthcare to illegal immigrants (sec 246, page 143 (http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf)):

Don't worry though folks, your current wait time at the emergency room won't improve with or without universal healthcare.

SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED

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ALIENS.
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Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments
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for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are
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This deals with affordability credits and what the F is that. Have you read the entire bill to know for certain 100% that in no other sections that illegals cannot join into the plan?

We all know that these will be an easy plan to understand and the goverment will just play a small roll in administering the plan. Her is an example of them cutting out all the paper work:

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ROVISION OF INFORMATION.—The em
ployer provides the Health Choices Commissioner,
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the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Health and
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Human Services, and the Secretary of the Treasury,
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as applicable, with such information as the Commis
sioner may require to ascertain compliance with the
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requirements of this section.


There is no way anyone could just read the bill and understand it.