Defense = Disappointment

The absolute bottom line is the offense needs to produce. Point-blank, thats it, no excuses. Everybody, JC, Zorn, recievers, line. That performance yesterday was garbage. Plain and simple. Everyone who plays O deserves to shoulder the blame. The excuses of JC under another new offense, Zorn is a first year head coach he will improve, the oline will be better, all that is gone. The offense should be better than last year. In order to win in this division is you got to score. Anybody see the points Cowboys and Eagles scored yesterday? The mistakes have to end or Zorn and Campbell are gone-bottom line and thats not my opinion, that is reality. Snyder isnt going to wait on Zorn. Now everyone wants to point fingers at the Defense. I have a sh*t-ton more faith in Blache and the Defensive than Zorn and the Offensive. That secondary is basically the same from last year when the Defense was 4th in the league and our D-line players have greatly improved. Now the D didnt play great yesterday BUT they provided opportunities for the crap offense and they did NOTHING. I dont need to provide stats to back up what I saw yesterday on offense, anybody who watched saw we were shut down. Toss that game ending touchdown out the window, that is not a factor. We are only as good as a last game. Not too good.


I could not agree more. Defense certainly needs to improve and I am starting to worry about D Hall, tackling was god awful, but defense is also played best with emotion it is almost about emotion, that is why guys like Ray Lewis and Mike Singletary look like they are half cocked and the offensive stars like Joe Montana, Tom Brady tend to be more controlled. That being said the offense has to do a little better imo with their drives especially following turnovers especially turnovers deep in the opponents territory. It is hard to play motivated football when you scratch and claw for a stop or a turnover and the offense keeps letting the opportunities go. (It does however provide fuel for guys who hate our defense to say hey if you'd have gotten one more stop or one more turnover at the end we could have won. You know the kind of guy I'm talking about. All around sub par performance though.

I could not agree more. Defense certainly needs to improve and I am starting to worry about D Hall, tackling was god awful, but defense is also played best with emotion it is almost about emotion, that is why guys like Ray Lewis and Mike Singletary look like they are half cocked and the offensive stars like Joe Montana, Tom Brady tend to be more controlled. That being said the offense has to do a little better imo with their drives especially following turnovers especially turnovers deep in the opponents territory. It is hard to play motivated football when you scratch and claw for a stop or a turnover and the offense keeps letting the opportunities go. (It does however provide fuel for guys who hate our defense to say hey if you'd have gotten one more stop or one more turnover at the end we could have won. You know the kind of guy I'm talking about. All around sub par performance though.

Do you think there is growing animosity between the offense and defense, or has it not gotten to that point?

My intention was not to hijack this thread, and I am not trying to smack talk. I am also not saying that AH was a bad investment. Is it too early to tell after one game? Of course!

All I said was he needs to step it up to be worth the money that was shelled out to him.

And personally am not worried about AH when he goes up against Gurode. We all know what happened last time Gurode and Haynesworth played against one another.

AH stomped on Gurodes face earning himself a 4 game suspension and Gurode 18 stiches. But even Haynesworth admitted that the reason he did it was he was "frustrated".

To translate, because Gurode owned him alll day during that game in Tennessee.

I was reading the post like who is this guy they are speaking of. Then I realized that the post were very vague and unintelligent. Then it dawned on me..Dallas fan. Scrolled down. There he was. LMAO

You know what would be a fun lineup to see in the DL? Alexander playing DE, Haynesworth and Montgomery in the middle and Carter in the other end spot. See if other teams can run up the middle when you got 350 and 330 lbs. walls standing in front of you and Alexander and Carter pressuring from the outside, might as well throw in Jarmon in the outside for fun too.

You know what would be a fun lineup to see in the DL? Alexander playing DE, Haynesworth and Montgomery in the middle and Carter in the other end spot. See if other teams can run up the middle when you got 350 and 330 lbs. walls standing in front of you and Alexander and Carter pressuring from the outside, might as well throw in Jarmon in the outside for fun too.

I would like to see Jarmon in the game a little bit more on passing downs. Him and Wilson are probably our best passrushers on that side of the line.

I would like to see Jarmon in the game a little bit more on passing downs. Him and Wilson are probably our best passrushers on that side of the line.

Agreed. I just don't get how we use our personnel AT ALL!!

Uh he already HAS handled him all by himself. The result....Haynesworth suspended.....Gurode Pro Bowl.

Round one goes to Gurode but that battle was 2006, this is 2009. In 2009 my money is on Fat Albert.

Round one goes to Gurode but that battle was 2006, this is 2009. In 2009 my money is on Fat Albert.
Lol, Okay Okay, I can respect that. We'll have to see what unfolds on November 22nd. I have tickets for that game already so I can get a first hand account too. I'll check back with you on November 23rd.

By the way, did anyone hear Eli Manning on Mike & Mike this morning? He was asked what the Giants did to minimize Haynesworth so much.

Eli basically said they did nothing special, that they ran their normal gameplan that they always use against the Redskins. He did say that the 2 early long drives the Giants had (10+ plays each drive) seemed the wear on Haynesworth and that they did not think he was in "Game-Shape" because of AH missing some of training camp. He did acknowledge that AH is a force in the middle, but only a few minor shifts with the TE's set him up in the gap that want AH line up in.

I was reading the post like who is this guy they are speaking of. Then I realized that the post were very vague and unintelligent. Then it dawned on me..Dallas fan. Scrolled down. There he was. LMAO
Laugh all you want, but nothing takes away from the fact that Haynesworth got the biggest contract in history in the off season. And in his regular season debut he got only 4 tackles. Which ranks him at #178 of all defense players in the NFL.

I am not saying AH sucks, I am not saying he's not that good. To the contrary he is a force in the middle.

But I am saying that by week 6, if he is STILL averaging only 4 tackles per game the Redskins could have gotten that production for much less money is all.

As much as I read forum members here complaining about over paying players in the past like Deion Sanders, Brandon Jacobs, Antwan Randle El etc etc I would think that you would understand my meaning.

Lol, Okay Okay, I can respect that. We'll have to see what unfolds on November 22nd. I have tickets for that game already so I can get a first hand account too. I'll check back with you on November 23rd.

By the way, did anyone hear Eli Manning on Mike & Mike this morning? He was asked what the Giants did to minimize Haynesworth so much.

Eli basically said they did nothing special, that they ran their normal gameplan that they always use against the Redskins. He did say that the 2 early long drives the Giants had (10+ plays each drive) seemed the wear on Haynesworth and that they did not think he was in "Game-Shape" because of AH missing some of training camp. He did acknowledge that AH is a force in the middle, but only a few minor shifts with the TE's set him up in the gap that want AH line up in.

Yea, he's going to say something like that. It's QB speak. I think too much is made about AH playing every down. All teams rotate their defensive line. We also have depth w/ Golston and Montgomery, so I have no problem w/ it.

I also doubt that most of the larger interior d lineman in the NFL are in complete game shape at week 1.