GTripp0012
09-21-2009, 12:26 PM
Again, your right, because by the end of the year we will be ranked much higher. Look all kidding aside, the defense has played well enough for us to have won both games.Except, of course, the Giants game.
Is Blache losing touch with reality?GTripp0012 09-21-2009, 12:26 PM Again, your right, because by the end of the year we will be ranked much higher. Look all kidding aside, the defense has played well enough for us to have won both games.Except, of course, the Giants game. CultBrennan59 09-21-2009, 03:03 PM I am happy with the D. Getting TOs, only allowed 1 offensive TD in each of our games...if they keep this up all year, they could save us until our offense figures itself out, which I believe will happen. Our defense is the least of our worries. I wouldn't say that, because last I checked we're still not getting all those sacks that we're supposed to be getting... Ruhskins 09-21-2009, 03:06 PM I wouldn't say that, because last I checked we're still not getting all those sacks that we're supposed to be getting... Our defense is still bend but don't break, and well while unfair, there are higher expectations of them given how much $$ the team has spent in the offseason. Look at the Giants D last nite, they basically kept NY in the game. There is QB pressure and turnovers, but they need to be one of those factors that leads to Ws. 53Fan 09-21-2009, 11:51 PM Indeed there is a correlation between what the two units do, as well as how they play on the field. That correlation was a topic of conversation which Blache was very much a part of when he was the defensive line coach, Greg Williams was DC, and Gibbs was the HC. Blaches' coaching philosophy is simular in many ways to that of Williams minus the creative blitzing. He does not beleive sack totals/or lack thereof should be a barometer for guaging the effectivness of a defense. Between Gibbs, Williams, Blache and the secondary coaches the subject of how Gibbs wanted the defense to play based on his struggling offense was discussed. They arived at the conclusion that many of Williams' exotic blitz packages would be curtailed, mainly because Gibbs felt if the defense was repeatedly burned by the blitz (in an effort to make big plays/cause turnovers) they could dig a hole deeper than his offense could produce out of. Whatever ambivalence if any there may have been, did not prevent the defense from being effective. He was of the beleif that a vastly improved offense would reduce any sizeable onus on the defense, hence the hiring of Al Saunders. Blache's defensive philosophy is sound and effective. He may not have all the parts he'd like to have to run some of the sets he would like, but sound nonetheless. There are times when he would like to be more aggressive, play more man and press coverages but his personnel dictate otherwise. The fact that I want our defense to play better really has nothing to do with the offense trust me. That's the point I'm trying to make. I want the defense to play better regardless of how the offense is doing. To your point about Blache and sacks, you'll get no argument out of me, he really couldn't care less. At least everytime he's asked about the lack of sacks, that seems to be his stance. Maybe I should be using the word pressure since that is what I'm really getting at. I use the word sacks because you are definitely getting pressure on the QB if you get them and probably more turnovers as well. I find it interesting that our FO doesn't share his philosophy though. We trade 2 draft picks for Jason Taylor, give AH more money than any DT has ever gotten, and draft the best pass rushing DE in the draft with our first round pick. What do you suppose the purpose was here? We sure didn't get Taylor and Orakpo to stop the run. And Haynesworth, although very good against the run, was acquired more for his ability to collapse the pocket to help get pressure on the QB than anything else. I find it hard to believe that any HC in the NFL, or college for that matter, would not want more sacks, turnovers, and 3 and outs by the defense if they could get them. That is what I'm asking for. To think that this defense cannot get any better than it already is......well..it sounds a little "out there" to me. And the fact that a HC doesn't want his defense to get repeatedly burned on blitzes is completely understandable. If that is what is happening on blitzes you're probably not doing it right. IMO they should have stopped Blache from blitzing last year, he certainly isn't any better than Greg Williams at it and there is certainly nothing creative about them. They aren't disguised and end in completions as often as not. We have a good defense and I'm not hating on Blache, but I will not apologize for wanting it to be better, and the offense has nothing to do with me wanting that. CRedskinsRule 09-22-2009, 08:35 AM The fact that I want our defense to play better really has nothing to do with the offense trust me. That's the point I'm trying to make. I want the defense to play better regardless of how the offense is doing. To your point about Blache and sacks, you'll get no argument out of me, he really couldn't care less. At least everytime he's asked about the lack of sacks, that seems to be his stance. Maybe I should be using the word pressure since that is what I'm really getting at. I use the word sacks because you are definitely getting pressure on the QB if you get them and probably more turnovers as well. I find it interesting that our FO doesn't share his philosophy though. We trade 2 draft picks for Jason Taylor, give AH more money than any DT has ever gotten, and draft the best pass rushing DE in the draft with our first round pick. What do you suppose the purpose was here? We sure didn't get Taylor and Orakpo to stop the run. And Haynesworth, although very good against the run, was acquired more for his ability to collapse the pocket to help get pressure on the QB than anything else. I find it hard to believe that any HC in the NFL, or college for that matter, would not want more sacks, turnovers, and 3 and outs by the defense if they could get them. That is what I'm asking for. To think that this defense cannot get any better than it already is......well..it sounds a little "out there" to me. And the fact that a HC doesn't want his defense to get repeatedly burned on blitzes is completely understandable. If that is what is happening on blitzes you're probably not doing it right. IMO they should have stopped Blache from blitzing last year, he certainly isn't any better than Greg Williams at it and there is certainly nothing creative about them. They aren't disguised and end in completions as often as not. We have a good defense and I'm not hating on Blache, but I will not apologize for wanting it to be better, and the offense has nothing to do with me wanting that. very well said. T.O.Killa 11-01-2009, 04:59 PM And the Eagles defense looked awesome today. For all the people that thought it was no big deal when so many of us were up in arms about the absolutely stupid decision to cut Antonio Dixon. He got his first sack today and is part of their defensive line rotation. He has played in every game. This was the only good thing to come out of training camp and our dumb coaches cut him. SmootSmack 11-01-2009, 05:02 PM Really? Dixon was the only good thing to come out of training camp? And we're much worse off without Dixon? Good for Dixon, but our D Line is just fine. tryfuhl 11-01-2009, 05:04 PM ^ +1 T.O.Killa 11-01-2009, 05:09 PM Really? Dixon was the only good thing to come out of training camp? And we're much worse off without Dixon? Good for Dixon, but our D Line is just fine. Anthony Montgomery has been hurt all year, Griffin is at the end of his career, and what are we doing with Renaldo Wynn waiting for him to develop so he can be active. Ok, you are right he was the second best thing, Marko Mitchell was the first and he has yet to get on the field. Another dumb move. Tell me what came out of training, camp that was better? GridIron26 11-01-2009, 05:12 PM For all the people that thought it was no big deal when so many of us were up in arms about the absolutely stupid decision to cut Antonio Dixon. He got his first sack today and is part of their defensive line rotation. He has played in every game. This was the only good thing to come out of training camp and our dumb coaches cut him. Well, we would have to let someone else go if we decided to keep Dixon.. Although the spot for Anothony Montgomery could have been easily filled in by Dixon.. |
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