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I think Zorn=Turner

Zorn = Turner in the sense that he'll get canned midseason, or that he'll win a playoff game or two?

Zorn = Turner in the sense that he'll get canned midseason, or that he'll win a playoff game or two?

Well I mean I'm not in the locker room or really talking to the current players so I don't know for sure but I suspect that Zorn is trying and he cares...but he's overwhelmed. Which is what I saw from Turner. Spurrier just didn't care

Well I mean I'm not in the locker room or really talking to the current players so I don't know for sure but I suspect that Zorn is trying and he cares...but he's overwhelmed. Which is what I saw from Turner. Spurrier just didn't care

Let's say that's the case (I agree it likely is). Not surprising considering he'd never been anything more than a position coach, and now he's juggling HC, playcalling, and QB's. Maybe the mistake wasn't in hiring him, but in asking that much that soon. Granted the assumption was that Blache had so much experience, Zorn could sort of leave that side of the ball alone on game day (which I believe he does), but I've gotta think we'd be doing a better job if Sherman Smith was calling the plays. Zorn has struggled with critical play calls and time management. With less on his plate, maybe things improve in that department.

The question here is, can he relinquish playcalling and still survive as a HC on this team?

Let's say that's the case (I agree it likely is). Not surprising considering he'd never been anything more than a position coach, and now he's juggling HC, playcalling, and QB's. Maybe the mistake wasn't in hiring him, but in asking that much that soon. Granted the assumption was that Blache had so much experience, Zorn could sort of leave that side of the ball alone on game day (which I believe he does), but I've gotta think we'd be doing a better job if Sherman Smith was calling the plays. Zorn has struggled with critical play calls and time management. With less on his plate, maybe things improve in that department.

The question here is, can he relinquish playcalling and still survive as a HC on this team?
I...........personally would MUCH rather see an effective minor re-organization than a complete re-load.

and again, the reality is, I just don't think it matters who the hell the head coach is, with the same front office format. We have had Gibbs here. We have had Spurrier. Zorn. Turner. It really doesn't matter. The organization is more dysfunctional than the coaching. That is the brutal reality. This franchise has not been a winner under Snyder in ten years, despite different coaches, different offenses, and it won't be until their is a professional approach to building a franchise.

One of Snyder's BIGGEST problems is patience. He thinks there is a quick fix to everything and wants the quick fix. Well, sometimes, things are so messed up, there is no quick fix. Until he learns that, expect more of the same.


I am with your 100%..I have said for a long time that no matter what coach is brought here, and what supposed talent is brought in, as long as Danny and "YES MAN" Vinny are running things, this team WILL NEVER be a winning franchise. There is a great article by Sally Jenkins in the post about management and man its great. I dont usually go along with her, but she backed it up with some facts and character issues that Snyder apparently has. I hate hearing its Jason Campbells fault, its Jim Zorns fault, Its Spurriers fault, blah blah blah....Can no one see there is one reason and one reason only this franchise has never won a damn thing since 1999!! DAN SNYDER...he creates this horrible attitude at Redskin Park, the organization and players just come here to get paid. He underminds his coaching staff, treats players like children if they lose a game and is just a basic billionare bully.

We will never be successful unless he steps aside, gives total control of players, draft, coaching, scouting to REAL FOOTBALL people. I would bring Casserly back, He did a pretty good job in Houston before getting run out of town for not picking Bush....hmmm how does that look now? Or I would pay what ever to get Ozzie Newsome, or Bill Polian, Allen, or someone with some credibility.

I am with your 100%..I have said for a long time that no matter what coach is brought here, and what supposed talent is brought in, as long as Danny and "YES MAN" Vinny are running things, this team WILL NEVER be a winning franchise. There is a great article by Sally Jenkins in the post about management and man its great. I dont usually go along with her, but she backed it up with some facts and character issues that Snyder apparently has. I hate hearing its Jason Campbells fault, its Jim Zorns fault, Its Spurriers fault, blah blah blah....Can no one see there is one reason and one reason only this franchise has never won a damn thing since 1999!! DAN SNYDER...he creates this horrible attitude at Redskin Park, the organization and players just come here to get paid. He underminds his coaching staff, treats players like children if they lose a game and is just a basic billionare bully.

We will never be successful unless he steps aside, gives total control of players, draft, coaching, scouting to REAL FOOTBALL people. I would bring Casserly back, He did a pretty good job in Houston before getting run out of town for not picking Bush....hmmm how does that look now? Or I would pay what ever to get Ozzie Newsome, or Bill Polian, Allen, or someone with some credibility.

If that's what Sally says, I'm glad I didn't read it. She hilites the obvious anyway!

I think Zorn=Turner

I know Vinny+Danny=Never Win a Championship

Well I mean I'm not in the locker room or really talking to the current players so I don't know for sure but I suspect that Zorn is trying and he cares...but he's overwhelmed. Which is what I saw from Turner. Spurrier just didn't care

Too bad he isn't half the offensive mind that Turner is.

i would just like to see the redskins being run by real football people, not by a really,really,really rich fan/owner.

bring back charley casserly, let him bring in the coach he wants to work with, let them two together put together the staff and players that they want.

i would just like to see the redskins being run by real football people, not by a really,really,really rich fan/owner.

bring back charley casserly, let him bring in the coach he wants to work with, let them two together put together the staff and players that they want.

Very simple solution to a really convoluted long standing problem...Casserly or not, I like it.