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SouperMeister 10-12-2009, 06:35 PM When I read "neck injury" I had the same thought - he's done. He's got a few years left in him otherwise, but that injury doesn't sound like something to play with.
Great Redskin, great citizen, probably our player of the decade.A true professional. Samuels may have been one of the more underappreciated Redskins, but wait to see how ugly our O-line play becomes - this offense is doomed to 6 to 10 points per game without him. If this is it, thanks Chris for a great career - you were a "True Redskin" and would have fit in well with the champions of Gibbs 1.0.
The Goat 10-12-2009, 06:47 PM A true professional. Samuels may have been one of the more underappreciated Redskins, but wait to see how ugly our O-line play becomes - this offense is doomed to 6 to 10 points per game without him. If this is it, thanks Chris for a great career - you were a "True Redskin" and would have fit in well with the champions of Gibbs 1.0.
Well said...Samuels deserves his props and I really don't think he should risk any serious longterm injury by playing longer. That said, I'll be surprised if we win 4 games all season w/o him in the lineup, assuming lil Danny is too proud to go out and sign more OL talent. I think it's a 4-12 or maybe 5-11 season.
GTripp0012 10-12-2009, 06:51 PM Well said...Samuels deserves his props and I really don't think he should risk any serious longterm injury by playing longer. That said, I'll be surprised if we win 4 games all season w/o him in the lineup, assuming lil Danny is too proud to go out and sign more OL talent. I think it's a 4-12 or maybe 5-11 season.I think it's 7 or 8 wins still, not that it makes a difference. The offense isn't quite as inept as 2004, but it's reaching those levels. We won 5 games in 2006, and this defense, maligned as it is, is a lot better at every level than the 2006 defense.
By the end of the year, I think our offense will be closer to levels we have come to previously expect than the disaster of 2004. And consequently, I don't think this team is quite as bad as either 2004 or 2006. But the final product will be below average.
It's worth noting that we lost to Carolina because of two major special teams f-ups and overall we're probably between the 20th and 23rd best teams in the league. Not awful, but a significant step back from the mediocrity of the last two seasons.
Dirtbag59 10-12-2009, 07:57 PM This is something that needed to happen, as ugly as it is. If we're going to be stuck with Pinky and the Brian then we might as well hammer into their head how important the O-Line is through negative reinforcement.
53Fan 10-12-2009, 08:02 PM Seriously, I feel really idiotic at the moment with all my defense of the FO on the Oline. I knew as well as everyone Samuels was going down at some point, and in my defense I called loud to bring in a solid back up LT, but I thought the rest of the line would hold up, I thought Heyer and Rinehart would establish themselves early on, leaving MW, WM, and EW as a solid young backup group. Clearly, the right side of the line needs more than what Heyer showed against the last 4 teams.
So VC ought to do the following moves right now:
1) Sign LJ, through what ever salary cap manipulations it takes
2) Beg Marcus Washington to come back and use him. Junior Seau signed for the Patriots, MW will come back if we ask.
3) Fire Stan Hixon (I don't care if he is the greatest WR coach in the world, we aren't cutting any of our receivers but someone has to pay!!!! ) (I also know this is a half-assed lame reason, but people have been fired for lesser cause)
4) Strip JZ of play calling. I don't care if it's what he wants to do, right now he can't get it done.
That would make me feel like the FO was actually watching the same games as I am.
By golly man. I think that would work! We've needed at least a good back-up LT for a couple of years. Marcus is missed, not only his play but his enthusiasm. Orakpo is a DE..that's where he should play. Stan Hixon....whatever, he won't be missed. In fact, are we sure he's even still here? Zorn has never been an OC and he has too many other responsibilities to be learning on the job right now. Sounds like a plan C!
CRedskinsRule 10-12-2009, 08:07 PM By golly man. I think that would work! We've needed at least a good back-up LT for a couple of years. Marcus is missed, not only his play but his enthusiasm. Orakpo is a DE..that's where he should play. Stan Hixon....whatever, he won't be missed. In fact, are we sure he's even still here? Zorn has never been an OC and he has too many other responsibilities to be learning on the job right now. Sounds like a plan C!
I am emailing it to Sherm today ;) (which Sherm though that's a toughie)
vallin21 10-12-2009, 08:36 PM I go back to keeping Williams/Batiste and letting Bridges go. Buges messed up big time on that and here we are looking at our awful O-line depth.
CRedskinsRule 10-13-2009, 07:23 AM I go back to keeping Williams/Batiste and letting Bridges go. Buges messed up big time on that and here we are looking at our awful O-line depth.
See, I don't have a problem with that per se. We kept youth, I don't see Bridges lighting up the world in Arizona (course I haven't watched so he could be). No one we were looking at would replace the Chris Samuels that was a probowl player.
skins89moss 10-13-2009, 08:39 AM See, I don't have a problem with that per se. We kept youth, I don't see Bridges lighting up the world in Arizona (course I haven't watched so he could be). No one we were looking at would replace the Chris Samuels that was a probowl player.
Well we could have selected Michael Oher over Orakpo. Which position was a greater need SLB or RT/LT? We thought defense need a pass rusher was more important which it is but he doesnt rush every down. Put Rak on the D-Line.
CRedskinsRule 10-13-2009, 09:07 AM Well we could have selected Michael Oher over Orakpo. Which position was a greater need SLB or RT/LT? We thought defense need a pass rusher was more important which it is but he doesnt rush every down. Put Rak on the D-Line.
And I would have been fine with Oher, my fear (past tense) would have been if Orakpo had not been there then we still would have passed on Oher.
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