skinsguy
10-23-2009, 12:34 PM
Personally I don't believe Gibbs will come back. Maybe they'll make him a part-owner or something. But, I think at the end of the day Gibbs will realize (or someone will make him realize) that he's got too much on his plate and he's not the type to "half-ass" anything
One thing about Joe Gibbs is that he is not going to do just enough. If he doesn't think he can put his whole heart and effort into something, then he is not going to do it. I kind of have my doubts about it as well, although he does appear to have a kinship and passion for the Redskins. So, who knows? Maybe he comes in just long enough to hire a respectable GM and Coach and leaves again. Or maybe he comes in to just be a "public relations" type of guy.
At this point, I just want a change for the better.
KLHJ2
10-23-2009, 12:35 PM
His only bad small picks were Desmond Howard and Randel El. Gary Clark, Charlie Brown, Ricky Sanders, and Santana Moss were brilliant acquisitions - wouldn't you agree?
You have to add all of his FA acquisitions too not just Moss. Davis Patten, Brandon Lloyd, and Antwan Randel El. I would throw Thrash in there as well, but he was an Undrafted FA by the Skins under Turner. But wait we did send a 5th round pick to the Eagles to get him back. That 5th round pick became DE Trent Cole. We got hosed on that deal.
FRPLG
10-23-2009, 01:25 PM
If Gibbs can basically become President Emeritus and be given the opportunity to hire our next GM it HAS TO BE BETTER than DS hiring the guy. Despite his unending efforts deserving of praise and willingness to spend money DS just doesn't make good football decisions. At least he hasn't. Gibbs on the other hand, does. In fact his greatest strength actually might be identifying quality football people.
firstdown
10-23-2009, 01:43 PM
Personally I don't believe Gibbs will come back. Maybe they'll make him a part-owner or something. But, I think at the end of the day Gibbs will realize (or someone will make him realize) that he's got too much on his plate and he's not the type to "half-ass" anything
Besides family what else is on his plate? Racing went on without him for 4 years and I'm pretty sure that all he does now days are PR type stuff.
RedskinRat
10-23-2009, 01:55 PM
Gibbs loves the Redskins.
Snyder idolizes Gibbs.
Gibbs demands a Parcells type role with the Redskins.
5 years time we will be back at the top, but it will be long and painful but still not as painful as it is now.
Can we as fans wait that long or will Generation ADD demand instant wins?
Be good to see Gregg Williams come back as HC.
SmootSmack
10-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Besides family what else is on his plate? Racing went on without him for 4 years and I'm pretty sure that all he does now days are PR type stuff.
Well family is a big thing. And he split time between NASCAR and the Redskins, during those four years. It's not like he completely abandoned NASCAR. And it's not just PR stuff. As owner of a Sprint Cup Series and a Nationwide team (not to mention his oversight of Coy's motocross team), that's 500 plus people he's overseeing but more importantly he's responsible for managing and renewing sponsorships (which is a major deal in racing), as well as dealing with some driver contracts that are coming up. Plus he owns and manages some indoor race tracks, and has his Game Plan for Life book/website/"ministry" and the Youth for Tomorrow center (which I don't think takes up a large chunk of his time)
But anyhow, he's got a lot to do. Fortunately for him, most of what he does is based in NC and his family is there with him so that makes it easier than say flying back and forth to DC
Slingin Sammy 33
10-23-2009, 02:53 PM
Well family is a big thing. I haven't followed Gibbs since he left other than to hear about his book. Do you know how his grandson is doing? I would imagine that is a huge factor for him.
12thMan
10-23-2009, 03:18 PM
The minute Joe Gibbs decides to return to Redskins Park there will be a presser about the presser; an annoucement about the annoucement. Dan Snyder will then craft same weird, pseudo "president/executive" title for Joe Gibbs that gives the impression that Gibbs is fully vested, but not too involved. Standing side by side at the podium, Gibbs and Snyder tell the press that Gibbs' role will be the architect orchestrating everything from the background, yet delegating to his hand picked head coach and newly minted GM. Following the presser every Redskin interview will be consumed with what they think about the legendary Joe Gibbs coming back to the franchise that is now --and finally -- moving in the right direction. The players follow the script, toe the company line, and are effusive with praise about the entire move. Then we all live happily ever after.
I hate to be Debbie Downer, I really do, but the more I think about Joe Gibbs coming back, in any capacity, the more I don't like it and I'm against it happening. First of all, if Gibbs' family is his priority then, with all due respect, he shouldn't come back to football. Isn't that why he retired the first and second time around? My fundamental question is, and what every Redskin fan should be asking, has that reason changed now that the Redskins are sinking - once again? I'm simply tired of a bunch of off season hype, recycled bodies and ideas, and half-assed results or better yet, no results at all.
For nearly a decade Dan Snyder has been successful at prying away just about every big name and no name free agent, and several coaches to come to Washington. There's no doubt he's a very savvy and results oriented business man. But somewhere in the NFL, right now, there's an active head coach and GM combo that have been laboring in the shadows for years. Now Mr. Snyder needs to go out and find the next Joe Gibbs; find the next Bobby Beathard!
To me this is nothing more than Danny's version of Jerry Jones building that huge complex down in Texas. Great for PR and revenue, but little has changed on the field. We as fans are tired of big flashy titles and the ghosts of past Super Bowls lurking around this franchise. I wish Dan Snyder would tend to his business and let Joe Gibbs tend to his.
I really don't understand what's to hate about him coming back in a limited role, nor do I understand why this couldn't have been posted in the other Gibbs thread. :doh:
SmootSmack
10-23-2009, 03:22 PM
I haven't followed Gibbs since he left other than to hear about his book. Do you know how his grandson is doing? I would imagine that is a huge factor for him.
I haven't really inquired lately. I could ask I guess