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GMScud 10-22-2009, 09:19 PM There is nothing desirable about working for an overbearing asshole boss.
Agree. I would tend to agree with Don Banks of SI more than I would Schefter in this case:
"Other than financially, has anyone been better off after going to work for Daniel Snyder and the Redskins than they were before they got to Washington? Seriously. Has anyone come out looking better for the experience, enhancing their reputation or résumé? Be it a coach, a player, or a front office member? Anyone? Ever?"
I could give a crap who the next head coach is if the front office structure stays like it is currently. It won't matter. Big name, little name, desirable or undesirable, we'll continue to flounder.
The no salary cap thing is way overblown IMO. Do the biggest spending teams in baseball always have the most success? Exactly. I think an uncapped year will be good for us because we can dump all the excess cap crap we've got going on (*cough* Portis *cough*), not because it will open the door for more spending.
Actually, I think an uncapped year would serve to further enable the type of behavior we've seen from Snyder over the past decade. And that IMO makes the uncapped prospect a con, not a pro, for any prospective HC.
hagams 10-23-2009, 08:48 AM I would like to see Gruden. When's the last time we had a hard nosed coach? What's the guys name that took over the 49's? If he's not available, we could bring in Terry Tate, and put him in charge of the FO.
joethiesmanfan 10-23-2009, 08:52 AM I would take Cowher, the rest can go hang out in the press box. To Gruden and Shanahan i say no. I say no to the WCO, get that crap outta here. Smash mouth baby, all day everyday. Defense!!!
irish 10-23-2009, 08:53 AM I would like to see Gruden. When's the last time we had a hard nosed coach? What's the guys name that took over the 49's? If he's not available, we could bring in Terry Tate, and put him in charge of the FO.
I saw Kelli Johnson talk about JG coming here after Sunday's game and she said the reason he had problems in TB was because he didnt have a QB. She said he has mentioned that he doesnt want to go to any team that doesnt have a bonafide quality QB. That pretty much rules out the Skins.
IMO, the ony thing that makes working for the Skins desirable is the ability to get a fat paycheck.
Monkeydad 10-23-2009, 09:18 AM I can agree with it. We have a top defense. We have a proud history and multiple Lombardis.
If an incoming coach can work out a deal with Snyder that clearly outlines responsibilities and gives the coach some control...or allows them to work with a new, competent GM...there's the chance to build another Redskins dynasty. Only a big name coach like Shannahan, Cowher or Holmgren could achieve this kind of deal, but they've already earned it with their past success. I believe Snyder really wants a winner and would not interfere with a top-name coach. When Vinny is fired, we're already on the right track.
I have heard Cowher wants to go to a Pittsburgh-like situation...well...that's us. Solid defense. The Steelers offense was weak when he started there...they had Greg Lloyd, Rod Woodson, Carnell Lake and others on D...led by Neil O'Donnell and Bubby Brister at QB and a Barry Foster/Merril Hoge backfield. They were not a great offense for a few years until Bettis arrived in '96, but he managed to win thanks to the defense.
It looks bad now, but this is a franchise that could rise back to power very quickly.
Paintrain 10-23-2009, 09:46 AM Maybe I am being a naive homer but I think that after this season Snyder finally will respond to the decade long criticism he's endured and make a philosophical change. He's going big game hunting but he will be more of a hands off owner than he was with Schottenheimer or any of the puppets. I see a Gibbs like relationship without the Ceratto factor. He's going to let someone come in and actually run the football side of things completely.
For whatever we think of him, he's a marketing genius and he knows that right now, his product is severely tarnished. He's got to make some serious changes to improve that image and he's going to make those changes.
redsk1 10-23-2009, 09:48 AM I always thought that DS could be one of the best owners in all of football. Why? Imagine a team that has the right organizational structure to build thru the draft but an owner not scared to spend a little $ every now and again to add in some key peices. What's better than that?
Right now though, I've got to side w/ Don Banks until we get VC out and some other competent person in.
skinsfan69 10-23-2009, 09:48 AM It's not desirable at all. First of all going out and buying free agents DOESN'T WORK. Second they're other owners that will spend money too, it's not like everyone is going to flock here. Third who is going to come here after seeing how Zorn has been treated?
SmootSmack 10-23-2009, 10:14 AM Well there are also a lot of assumptions about how Zorn was treated. One thing that is fact is that Zorn, thanks to Snyder and Cerrato, can now add to his resume head coach. Something he wasn't able to do before.
Monkeydad 10-23-2009, 10:29 AM It's not desirable at all. First of all going out and buying free agents DOESN'T WORK. Second they're other owners that will spend money too, it's not like everyone is going to flock here. Third who is going to come here after seeing how Zorn has been treated?
You haven't paid attention since the Spurrier experiment when we tried to win with Deion and Bruce Smith have you?
Just off the top of my head: Taylor, Cooley, Cartwright, Smoot, Bailey (traded for Portis), Samuels, Dockery, Orakpo, Campbell, Rogers, Horton, Landry, McIntosh, Doughty, Blades, Montgomery, Golston, even Betts have all been great picks this decade.
Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Barnes, Mitchell, Tryon, Moore, Brennan, Rinehart, Jarmon (supp draft) and probably some others could be solid contributors in the future.
Sure we paid for Haynesworth and Hall this offseason and brought back Dockery, but they have not been busts like Dana Stubblefield. Big Al is not playing up to his potential but Hall has been great and made some huge plays this year.
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