Vinny covering his ass

1. Draft picks are not guarantees.
Last year everyone on this board were crying because we couldn't rush the passer. Getting a pass rush for the D was priority one, an this was a UN resolution.

2. The fact is, Gibbs left Zorn a playoff team. Obviously Zorn is incapable of even impersonating an NFL offensive coordinator. Look, when it looks like the entire roster needs to be blown up and all players are suddenly horrible (including the 4 Pro Bowl offensive players), that points to Zorn, point blank period.

3. We have a nice nucleus of young players. I like the 2nd year WRs and Davis. Actually Davis may turn out to be better than Cooley. I would like to start that argument now. The offense is better off with Davis in the line up than with Cooley in the line up. I say trade Cooley for a tight end who can block. That would make more sense than trading a 1500 yard a year RB. Who would yall rather have then Portis: Forte or Turner? (one hit wonders). We need a young RB to go along with Portis to phase in as Portis phases out.

4. We need offensive line help, but one off season should be enough. We need a Center, a Guard, and a Tackle. Every freaking lineman does not have to be a Pro Bowler. No one spends 1st round picks on Centers or Guards. Maybe spend it on a Tackle, but i would rather spend that pick on a young stud to complement Portis.

5. Monday night NFL bloopers film. I had to laugh. Zorn's team is in disarray. He does not know what he is doing. The snap on 4th an goal and all the penalties point to coaching once again. We need to hire a head coach and let him pick his assistants.

god I hate that guy...

4. We need offensive line help, but one off season should be enough. We need a Center, a Guard, and a Tackle. Every freaking lineman does not have to be a Pro Bowler. No one spends 1st round picks on Centers or Guards. Maybe spend it on a Tackle, but i would rather spend that pick on a young stud to complement Portis.

yeah no one spends 1st round picks on C and G but nobody completely neglects it either. It is asinine to say that you shouldn't draft lineman, one of the reason the colts, pats, giants, the best teams in the league stay the best is because they are continuously replenishing the trenches.

You say that we didn't have a pass rush, we also happened to have the third best defense in the league. Are you saying we made a better decisions by investing 150 mil on AH and DH. Don't you think we could have just gotten some decent players and spent some money on the OL? your argument is specious b/c while you speak a truth, next to no one is contesting that truth and you don't account for the fact that you do need to draft quality OL and develop them in your system so you don't need to go after pricey free agents who often disappoint.

This years draft
3.Drafted 2 LB's ( Henson, Cody Glenn) Glenn released, Henson not active on game day. So far 2 wasted picks.
We did not have a 2nd rd pick due to trading for Jason Taylor. We release Taylor and have nothing to show for the 2nd round pick. Another wasted move that is catching up to us this season.

Who is held responsible for these moves? VC and Dan.

This is the crap that really burns me up. The LB picks were complete garbage throw-away waste of picks....I just dont get it, especially with the OLINE issues
Jason Taylor is a bum, Pacells made our FO look like a bunch of idoits....

I really hate Siegfried & Roy running the FO, but we get what we deserve

We did not have a pass rush last year. That was the big griping point. We did not create turnovers, we could not stop people on third down. Fact. Yeah we need O-line help. We need to help rebuild the O-line, but dang we made some moves with the O-line. Some players like Rhinehart didn't turn out to be good. That's the luck of the draft. Patriots build from free agents too. Look at what we have some good younfg players. We don't have a coaching staff capable of covering our weaknesses and killing our opponents with our strengths. No team has Pro Bowlers at every position. The coaches, Zorn in particular, do not know how to use what they have. For instance, the Giants secondary sucks but they manage to get by. the Patriots secondary sucks. The Colts entire defense sucks. It is coaching my man. No blowing up rosters okay??? That is a gamble too

yeah no one spends 1st round picks on C and G but nobody completely neglects it either. It is asinine to say that you shouldn't draft lineman, one of the reason the colts, pats, giants, the best teams in the league stay the best is because they are continuously replenishing the trenches.

You say that we didn't have a pass rush, we also happened to have the third best defense in the league. Are you saying we made a better decisions by investing 150 mil on AH and DH. Don't you think we could have just gotten some decent players and spent some money on the OL? your argument is specious b/c while you speak a truth, next to no one is contesting that truth and you don't account for the fact that you do need to draft quality OL and develop them in your system so you don't need to go after pricey free agents who often disappoint.

Ditto, and although you don't go after Centers or Guards in the first round a team should look at their glaring needs and make sure those spots are filled or met prior to picking BPA. I'll agree if we had 30 yrs I'm sure anyone could build a team with BPA's, but not if you treat them like crap, let them go elswhere, cut them and so on. Positions of need must come first after those needs are met then you can pick luxury BPA's that can be developed for the future. The Pats are a team who can pick BPA, Colts are a team who can pick BPA, the Skins with so many holes can not afford to pick BPA all the time.

Anyone that puts Mike Williams in the same statement that he thought we had a playoff roster should be immediately stoned and fired. If that is fixing depth, well, there is no surprise to the depths this franchise finds itself.

By the way, Ports has the same amount of carries as Brandon Jacobs. Averaging more yards per carry with 1 touchdown and Jacobs has 2 touchdowns. What the giants have is a viable 2nd RB. We got Betts who sucks. I said that 3 years ago. What logic puts Betts in the game on 3rd downs, the most critical of downs? Stupid stupid stupid. Run Rock more in the meantime. I am seeing a 5-5 record at week ten. Keep fumble fingers on the bench.

Anyone that puts Mike Williams in the same statement that he thought we had a playoff roster should be immediately stoned and fired. If that is fixing depth, well, there is no surprise to the depths this franchise finds itself.
He basically said, "We found bodies to fill holes, that should work on the O-Line."

Well, we had 3 2nd rounders in the 2008 draft and drafted not 1 OL. I did hear alot of posts about not using one of those on an OL.

I was thinking at the time that Kelly, Thomas, and Davis must be really good for us not to draft an offensive lineman w/ one of those picks.