Jeff Garcia signs w/ Cleveland

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MTK
03-09-2004, 05:19 PM
Not a fan of Couch at all. He's too inconsistent on the field and has a thin skin off it.

johnnyredskin63
03-09-2004, 05:25 PM
Not a fan of Couch at all. He's too inconsistent on the field and has a thin skin off it.

reminds me a lot of heath shuler and gus frerotte,a lot of talent down the drain.
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cpayne5
03-09-2004, 05:27 PM
Gus Frerotte alright till he decided to head butt the wall at FedEx.

SmootSmack
03-09-2004, 05:34 PM
I could see Couch in Dallas, But I could also see him going somewhere like Tennessee or Atlanta and being the backup.

Does Couch go down as one of the biggest busts of all time considering he was the no. 1 pick and supposed key to the new Browns franchise?

cpayne5
03-09-2004, 05:48 PM
I could see Couch in Dallas, But I could also see him going somewhere like Tennessee or Atlanta and being the backup.

Does Couch go down as one of the biggest busts of all time considering he was the no. 1 pick and supposed key to the new Browns franchise?
Heh, you'd probably have to do some research to determine that one. Nobody really remembers the busts. I'd imagine that there are bigger ones out there, but he's prolly close as well.

beg8878
03-09-2004, 05:51 PM
Does Couch go down as one of the biggest busts of all time considering he was the no. 1 pick and supposed key to the new Browns franchise?

That distinction will always be with Ryan Leaf...

At least Couch was a professional off the field. He has had some decent games, played in the playoffs (I think, it might have been Holcomb).

Ryan Leaf was just awful right out the gate and that attitude where you just wanted to "smack" him

SmootSmack
03-09-2004, 05:53 PM
Ryan Leaf is definitely the poster child for bust, closely followed by Heath

After that though I think you can maybe make a case for lumping Mirer, Couch, and Akili Smith together.

SmootSmack
03-09-2004, 05:55 PM
That was Holcomb in the playoff game. Personally, I think Couch has more talent than Holcomb but the players tend to rally around Holcomb and Couch's contract hasn't been comensurate with his performance

hank64
03-09-2004, 05:58 PM
What about Tony Mandarich? The man was a second overall pick and just sucked. Remember when he wanted to fight Mike Tyson on PPV?

johnnyredskin63
03-09-2004, 06:23 PM
mandarich was a huge bust,but there is not any bigger than ryan leaf.i would argue shuler,and desmond howard were close though even if howard eventually got his game at a higher level.i give credit where it's due though,couch,mirer,and jake plummer are huge busts too.

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