budw38
11-10-2009, 12:11 PM
I don't agree with Beck that the President could be racist . However , Obama did make the comments , people wont vote for me because I don't look like the guys on the dollar bill , and people from the south are bitter , sitting on their porches , with a bible in one hand and a gun in the other ? Hopefully the stupid comments < or stupidly > will stop so this country can move on and continue to improve .
FRPLG
11-10-2009, 12:21 PM
I wonder what part of this is agreeable?
MI_0Kt_e3Go
Which part is disagreeable? He didn't call him a murderer or rapist or something. He said he was a racist. Lots of good people are called racists. Some even are racist. Why is it ok for some people to call other people racist and but not others? I'm not really agreeing with him I just didn't think it was a big deal at all. Hell I'd be more interested or riled up if he called him a liar or womanizer. We're all racist to some degree. We all see ethnicity and make pre-judgements and/or are predisposed to act in certain ways. It is human nature. I'd say it is the level and type of predisposition and pre-judgement that determines the perniciousness.
dmek25
11-10-2009, 03:26 PM
you call my posts dumb. it would upset you more if Obama was a womanizer, than a racist? he is about as much a racist, as old W. remember when all the liberals piled on Bush, after Katrina? i didnt buy that bunch of bunk either
budw38
11-10-2009, 04:05 PM
you call my posts dumb. it would upset you more if Obama was a womanizer, than a racist? he is about as much a racist, as old W. remember when all the liberals piled on Bush, after Katrina? i didnt buy that bunch of bunk either Hey whats up Dmek ? As far as Katrina , every level of Gov't could have done more . As I understand only the governors can mandate/order an evacuation , the state should have , as well FEMA could have also been much more efficient.
FRPLG
11-10-2009, 04:40 PM
you call my posts dumb. it would upset you more if Obama was a womanizer, than a racist? he is about as much a racist, as old W. remember when all the liberals piled on Bush, after Katrina? i didnt buy that bunch of bunk either
That was my point. Racism is both inherent in humans to some degree and I don't subscribe to the notion that it can ever be eradicated. A key way humans learn is by identifying differences. We see color and it means something because it is a difference. We also act based on our perceptions. Now most people have an enlightened conscious character that keeps their racism from being an entirely negative thing. I hear Beck say Obama is a racist based on things he's said and done and I agree with everything he said. I just don't believe Obama harbors any negative perceptions of white people. He does see differences and he does act differently based on that like everyone else does. But he isn't racist in the more generally accepted term. He doesn't unfairly treat white and black people different. I wasn't very clear in my last post on that. I basically meant that Obama is human and I don't think he is racist in the generally accepted way. But I also think what Beck said had merit at some level. Obama did say things that showed he holds different standards maybe for different ethnicities. But so what?
dmek25
11-10-2009, 04:44 PM
hey budw. and frplg, your arrogance is very unbecoming
firstdown
11-10-2009, 04:56 PM
[quote=budw38;623543]Hey whats up Dmek ? As far as Katrina , every level of Gov't could have done more . As I understand only the governors can mandate/order an evacuation , the state should have , as well FEMA could have also been much more efficient.[/quote
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dmek25
11-10-2009, 05:00 PM
why is it still a mess? because people would prefer to live in shit holes. without proper food and water. barely any medical services. i know thats the way i want to live
dmek25
11-10-2009, 05:01 PM
and this wasn't about Katrina, and Bush. its about that jackass Beck. and the last time i checked, he can say anything he wants. no one will censor him
firstdown
11-10-2009, 05:10 PM
why is it still a mess? because people would prefer to live in shit holes. without proper food and water. barely any medical services. i know thats the way i want to live
I'm guessing you saw my post before I went back and erased it so I'll respond. Alot of them lived that way before Kitrina hit and will always until they are willing to help themself.