Dirtbag59
11-09-2009, 10:10 PM
Our Oline has sucked since 2007. It was just ok before that. Yeah, I gues its the fact that they never get him any good players, but he has not developed anyone.
Bugel helped develop Dockery and his work with Heyer is virtually the only reason that guy is in the league today. On a seperate note the only time a Gibbs 2.0 O-Line struggled was 2004. The reason people were pushing for O-Line in the 08 offseason was because they were getting old and Jansens 2nd injury was a wakeup call, despite Heyers strong play at the tail end of that season (minus the Seatle game). To those who would point to 06 as a year the O-Line struggled I'd suggest looking at sacks allowed and Betts rushing totals.
GTripp0012
11-09-2009, 10:11 PM
Bugel helped develop Dockery and his work with Heyer is virtually the only reason that guy is in the league today. On a seperate note the only time a Gibbs 2.0 O-Line struggled was 2004. The reason people were pushing for O-Line in the 08 offseason was because they were getting old and Jansens 2nd injury was a wakeup call, despite Heyers strong play at the tail end of that season (minus the Seatle game). To those who would point to 06 as a year the O-Line struggled I'd suggest looking at sacks allowed and Betts rushing totals.Um, do you remember Todd Wade?
Ruhskins
11-09-2009, 10:17 PM
Um, do you remember Todd Wade?
Check mate. LOL.
The sad thing is that even with all this clamering, the FO still hasn't said addressing the o-line is a priority this offseason
Considering we still have 8 games to go, I wouldn't expect the front office to be announcing plans for next offseason already.
Dirtbag59
11-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Um, do you remember Todd Wade?
Even then they ran the ball well and protected the QB. The offense wasn't exactly elite that season but the defense was just plain horrible. 5 straight 100 yard games to close out the season and a 1,00 yard season for Betts.
T.O.Killa
11-09-2009, 10:23 PM
And you know what. Screw Lavar Arrington. I am sick of listening to his crap.
GTripp0012
11-09-2009, 10:23 PM
Even then they ran the ball well and protected the QB. The offense wasn't exactly elite that season but the defense was just plain horrible.I think the line was very good in 2005 and 2006. It actually wasn't bad in 2008 either, but the attrition of that group over a two month period was incredible.
My only point is the warning signs in 2007 were pretty blatant. The only solution we got was Rinehart.
Dirtbag59
11-09-2009, 10:36 PM
I think the line was very good in 2005 and 2006. It actually wasn't bad in 2008 either, but the attrition of that group over a two month period was incredible.
My only point is the warning signs in 2007 were pretty blatant. The only solution we got was Rinehart.
I think the only time the O-Line struggled at the end of 07 when the Seatle D-Line manhandled us. Other then that I give them credit for the win streak at the end of the season.
08 was funny because during the first half we had one of the best lines in the league and one of the worst by the end of it. But yeah that downfall still shocks me.
ethat001
11-10-2009, 01:32 AM
Isn't this all **BUGEL'S** fault??
I mean, do you really think Snyder or Cerrato said, "Let's not focus on the O-line"?? Isn't it Bugel instead who probably kept telling them, "You don't need to draft an O-line, I can make any scrub a Pro-Bowl offensive lineman."
I just see Snyder as a guy with money who asks the coaches what they think, and I'm sure they talked about the O-line as a group after last season.
SBXVII
11-10-2009, 10:35 AM
I know I've asked and perhaps one of you answered it but are the Skins not allowed to raid other teams practice squads?
You know Andrew Crummey OL is on the Texans PS. Could we not bring him on board? or is there some expensive contract issue that keeps us from picking him up? Here's a list of some of the other teams PS OL...
Eric Young RT Rams
Trevor Canfield G Cards
Jermey Parnell T Saints
Chris Clark T Vikings
Johan Asiata G Bears
James Marten T Bears
Jaimie Thomas G Colts
Andrew Crummey OL Texans
Adam Stenavich T Texans
Edit: Andrew Crummey, Johan Asiata, and Trevor Canfield interest me.