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12thMan 11-11-2009, 12:47 PM I respect that thought, and have felt that way myself, however, every military person who has put on the uniform, has accepted the risks and obligations of defending our country and is deserving of respect and thanks. My guess is, that had your unit been called into a warzone, or more particularly, had it been put in harms way to stop a force that was invading USA soil, you would have gone and fought to the last of your ability to protect this country. That's what people are thanking you, and every veteran, this day. Further, as you Trample have pointed out, when you wore the uniform and were stationed overseas, you represented the US in whatever country you were stationed. Your presence in Japan, or mine during the drawdown in Europe, showed what our country strives to believe in, peace through strength, respect of countries laws and boundaries. We showed that a military does not have to invade and occupy as German or Soviet troops have done, and those wearing the uniform represent the ideal of civilian control over a massive defense structure to governments and populations throughout the world.
As you can tell, I don't any longer agree that only those who served in wars should be honored for their service. To everyone who has worn the uniform, represented our country's finest ideals, protected our borders by their simple presence as a deterrent. Again I say thanks.
Very good perspective. And I think those of us who have worn the uniform, but didn't engage in warfare or combat tend to compare ourselves to and elevate those who did. Whether intentional or not, right or wrong, I think that's the case.
I enlisted in the Navy from 1990-1995 and was stationed on the USS Tripoli during the Gulf War. During my stint, we deployed several times to the Gulf region.
About a month before I was scheduled to join the ship, she was struck by a mine explosion. Totally blew a 16 x 20 ft hole in the hull of the ship. Fortunately no lives were lost, just a few scrapes and bruises. I think one guy tried to get a Purple Heart out of it, but was denied. He sort of became a laughing stock later on. The funny thing was because I had orders in hand when she got hit, even though I wasn't onboard at the time, I later received a few medals and ribbons awarded to the ship. I felt it was unfair for me to receive anything seeing that I was in a barracks in back woods Mississippi training. After they repaired her, I later joined the ship, and she went back out to continue mine sweeping ops.
Something about being in harms way made me sort of appreciate what the crew went through prior to me joining.
GMScud 11-11-2009, 01:36 PM A huge and heartfelt thank you to all our men and women in uniform, past and present. I can't even put into words how much your service means to me. I am honored, privileged, and humbled to live in such a great country. I try not take our soldiers and our freedom for granted, but it's easy to forget sometimes through the daily grind of life. Veteran's Day is a unique opportunity to show gratitude.
I said some prayers this morning, and said some words to my grandfather. He passed away in 2000. Man do I miss him. He was in the 10th Mountain Division, soldier on skis (snow commando literally) in WWII. I still have his army-issued compass from the war. I am proud of him.
God Bless the USA, it's citizens, and all those brave enough to serve.
CRedskinsRule 11-11-2009, 01:45 PM Very good perspective. And I think those of us who have worn the uniform, but didn't engage in warfare or combat tend to compare ourselves to and elevate those who did. Whether intentional or not, right or wrong, I think that's the case.
I enlisted in the Navy from 1990-1995 and was stationed on the USS Tripoli during the Gulf War. During my stint, we deployed several times to the Gulf region.
About a month before I was scheduled to join the ship, she was struck by a mine explosion. Totally blew a 16 x 20 ft hole in the hull of the ship. Fortunately no lives were lost, just a few scrapes and bruises. I think one guy tried to get a Purple Heart out of it, but was denied. He sort of became a laughing stock later on. The funny thing was because I had orders in hand when she got hit, even though I wasn't onboard at the time, I later received a few medals and ribbons awarded to the ship. I felt it was unfair for me to receive anything seeing that I was in a barracks in back woods Mississippi training. After they repaired her, I later joined the ship, and she went back out to continue mine sweeping ops.
Something about being in harms way made me sort of appreciate what the crew went through prior to me joining.
I agree and really do respect that. A portion of my unit in Germany was deployed to Somali, but not my Company. I understand the difference. But just like in your story, its often times, especially in modern war, a matter of chance or happenstance that one's unit was not in harms way, and this day is a chance for all United States citizens to come together and acknowledge all who have served their country, by choice or obligation, in an honorable manner.
mlmdub130 11-11-2009, 02:09 PM Very good perspective. And I think those of us who have worn the uniform, but didn't engage in warfare or combat tend to compare ourselves to and elevate those who did. Whether intentional or not, right or wrong, I think that's the case.
I enlisted in the Navy from 1990-1995 and was stationed on the USS Tripoli during the Gulf War. During my stint, we deployed several times to the Gulf region.
About a month before I was scheduled to join the ship, she was struck by a mine explosion. Totally blew a 16 x 20 ft hole in the hull of the ship. Fortunately no lives were lost, just a few scrapes and bruises. I think one guy tried to get a Purple Heart out of it, but was denied. He sort of became a laughing stock later on. The funny thing was because I had orders in hand when she got hit, even though I wasn't onboard at the time, I later received a few medals and ribbons awarded to the ship. I felt it was unfair for me to receive anything seeing that I was in a barracks in back woods Mississippi training. After they repaired her, I later joined the ship, and she went back out to continue mine sweeping ops.
Something about being in harms way made me sort of appreciate what the crew went through prior to me joining.
i'm gonna guess an officer, all the officers in my unit tried the same thing, except they tried for bronze stars after sitting in air conditioned tents for 11 months, fortunatly the were all denied as well
hopfully all those still serving will have great day, and the troops wounded at fort hood will have a speedy recovery
GMScud 11-11-2009, 02:11 PM Just watched the SportsCenter segment with Parcells, Bob Knight, and Mike Krzyzewski all live together. Very impressive. All West Point men.
saden1 11-11-2009, 02:12 PM Happy Veterans Day to all the veterans. Semper Fidelis.
12thMan 11-11-2009, 02:26 PM I'm watching Patton right and just slapped the crap out this soldier who was crying about being in war. Those days are long gone buddy.
Trample the Elderly 11-11-2009, 08:50 PM I respect that thought, and have felt that way myself, however, every military person who has put on the uniform, has accepted the risks and obligations of defending our country and is deserving of respect and thanks. My guess is, that had your unit been called into a warzone, or more particularly, had it been put in harms way to stop a force that was invading USA soil, you would have gone and fought to the last of your ability to protect this country. That's what people are thanking you, and every veteran, this day. Further, as you Trample have pointed out, when you wore the uniform and were stationed overseas, you represented the US in whatever country you were stationed. Your presence in Japan, or mine during the drawdown in Europe, showed what our country strives to believe in, peace through strength, respect of countries laws and boundaries. We showed that a military does not have to invade and occupy as German or Soviet troops have done, and those wearing the uniform represent the ideal of civilian control over a massive defense structure to governments and populations throughout the world.
As you can tell, I don't any longer agree that only those who served in wars should be honored for their service. To everyone who has worn the uniform, represented our country's finest ideals, protected our borders by their simple presence as a deterrent. Again I say thanks.
Thanks bro. I appreciate that.
budw38 11-11-2009, 09:23 PM I respect that thought, and have felt that way myself, however, every military person who has put on the uniform, has accepted the risks and obligations of defending our country and is deserving of respect and thanks. My guess is, that had your unit been called into a warzone, or more particularly, had it been put in harms way to stop a force that was invading USA soil, you would have gone and fought to the last of your ability to protect this country. That's what people are thanking you, and every veteran, this day. Further, as you Trample have pointed out, when you wore the uniform and were stationed overseas, you represented the US in whatever country you were stationed. Your presence in Japan, or mine during the drawdown in Europe, showed what our country strives to believe in, peace through strength, respect of countries laws and boundaries. We showed that a military does not have to invade and occupy as German or Soviet troops have done, and those wearing the uniform represent the ideal of civilian control over a massive defense structure to governments and populations throughout the world.
As you can tell, I don't any longer agree that only those who served in wars should be honored for their service. To everyone who has worn the uniform, represented our country's finest ideals, protected our borders by their simple presence as a deterrent. Again I say thanks.
Great post . Anyone who is brave enough to sign 3 or more years of their life to serve has earned the respect of all Americans IMO .
JPPT1974 11-12-2009, 11:34 PM Remembering those that fought and those that are still fighting. As well as families that were left behind over doing so.
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